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Why I Refuse to Grow Hemp

Why I Refuse to Grow Hemp


in past videos, I’ve made some bold
claims and strong assertions that I’m going to be adding a new activity in
business to our farm I’ve talked about growing hemp I’ve talked about raising
geese well by the end of this video I’m gonna explain to you guys what my plan
is for 2019 first keep filling up this water I got 13 farm-fresh eggs this morning
that’s pretty good as you guys have known I have been exploring two
different specific business lines to enter into you for our farm this year on
the one hand I’m thinking about going into growing hemp whether it be for
industrial or CBD use there seems to be a lot of opportunity and buzz centered
around that sort of thing but on the other hand I’ve really thought a lot
about doubling down on my skills working with waterfowl and starting to raise
geese perfect given my limited bandwidth with everything I already have going on
with the farm between the ducks that we’re raising here for eggs as well as
what we’re doing with our orchard out back I want to make sure I don’t
overextend myself so so I’ve made a deal with my wife Allison that I can only
enter into one business which to me is kind of unfortunate because one of the
things that drives me crazy astiz that fear of missing out fear of missing out
formal as it’s become known so now when it comes to hemp and in growing hemp
here on the farm there’s really two avenues that exist
within it there is the CBD focused hemp production which requires a fair amount
of growing precision you only want the female plant that means you either need
to be very precise with how you weed out and manage your crop or you only go with
clones and if you go with clones that can get quite pricey like I’m talking to
people where they want 10 to 15 dollars per plant but the opportunity with CBD
is also tremendous there is such crazy high demand right now for CBD all these
products that you see out there are using it today we are making a CBD
golden milk latte it’s all anybody’s ever talking about CBD gummies from hemp
balms it just might be the hottest craze since cobra oil it is a tonic and elixir
purge the body and lift the spirits most of the growers I’ve talked to you who
are growing for CVD are growing it in some sort of greenhouse or hoop house
structure they are very skilled horticulturists and it’s a very precise
practice when it comes to growing hemp for industrial use whether it be for
food or for fiber or for biodiesel or for building materials you know there’s
a wild crazy long list of it in a field like the field that we have here at our
farm could be a very good fit for the demands of the industrial hemp trade and
that industrial hemp trade is also booming it might not be as massive or as
quickly growing as the CBD trade but industrial hemp really does have a
future there’s a lot of potential here but let’s also acknowledge the downsides
to him and when it comes to hemp whether it be for CBD or for industrial
production there are a fair amount of downsides I mean first and foremost I really don’t
know what I’m doing I’ve never grown a crop really you know I’ve raised a ton
of tree seedlings and I’ve done a fair amount of gardening my day but I’ve
never done like you know grow crop agriculture I don’t have a tractor or
any of the necessary infrastructure hemp specifically needs its own special
harvesting equipment and attachments that even the local dairy farmers around
here who I’m friends with don’t have so even if I could enlist a few local
friends here to help me with the tractor power I would still need to you know
whether it be rent or buy the attachments to plant as well as harvest
the hemp and even if I am able to graze a good healthy crop I need to have a
buyer and I’ve spent the last two months trying to nail down potential buyers to
to work with and then that’s a dodgy business hi you’ve reached horticulture
in HomeGoods please leave a message at the beep I’ll get back as soon as I can
thank you have a great day I’m finding this very weird
contradictory thing happening where everybody’s saying there’s crazy high
demand but then everybody I talked to who is a potential buyer or somebody who
can process it is acting like there’s a glut and they pretend like they would be
doing me a favor by taking the hemp off my hands so all in all it kind of leaves
me in somewhat of a conundrum and it makes the whole hemp trade seem somewhat
unattractive whether that’s for industrial use or CBD right now while
there’s a boom for hemp and there’s just a real opportunity out there and there’s
a lot of interest I could see a small grower like myself actually making some
headway but I think very soon the big guys are gonna push the little guys out
of this marketplace and it’s going to be very hard to compete in this industrial
hemp industry or in the CBD industry without actually having the necessary
scale and as I think about why I wanted to get into farming in the first place
trying to build up scale for a large processing operation it is not one of
those things that was on my list so let’s talk about my other business
opportunity of trying to raise grazing geese as I think about what I actually
like about the farm and life on the farm one of the things I enjoy the most is
just spending time here and hanging out with my ducks and I feel like I’ve
learned a ton by working with our ducks over the past year and so when I think
about the idea of bringing geese onto the farm that’s not nearly as scary well
I love my ducks I just see this amazing potential and opportunity with the geese
you know the downside with the Ducks is that I have to bring on so much grain
onto the farm that’s an off arm input that’s an extra
expense that’s something that requires fuel and extra money and if I think
about really trying to limit the number of inputs I’m putting into this farming
activity you know the feed for the Ducks can’t be ignored if one of the things
that I’m trying to do is create a sustainable business model for my farm
one that’s sustainable from an ecological perspective thinking about
the holistic impact that the Ducks have on an environmental perspective is
important and what I see with this opportunity with the geese is something
to actually really break through and find a new way to farm because geese are
grazers I can take advantage of all of this grassland that I have out here or
that I will have out here this summer just you know give it a little bit more
time to melt and turn it into something that we humans can eat in the form of
goose meat and so I really want to try this and as I’ve been out there
researching and trying to learn I’ve found a couple of people who dabbled
with this but nobody who’s done it in a significant way the other thing I’ll say
about this idea of doing the goose operation is number one it’s a slight
incremental improvement on the current skills that I have it’s not a whole new
skill set like hemp farming number two the costs are significantly
different as I priced it out I’m gonna need to expend about 1500 to 1600
dollars for the geese that’s everything from buying the Gosling’s themselves to
you know getting some initial feed to get them started as babies to actually
processing them and having them ready for sale and if those are all my costs
if I’m looking at about 50 geese that I’m looking to raise you know that’s not
nothing but it’s also not a significant expense it’s manageable meanwhile if I’m
thinking about growing hemp here on the industrial side I’m looking at around
twelve thousand dollars in some costs over the course of one year do you make
that happen and after I really want to do CVD and do
CBD the right way I’m looking at about twenty two thousand dollars in expenses
and those include everything from buying the clones to buying the infrastructure
I need to build the greenhouse to you know some of the harvesting tools that I
need as well some of the planting and cultivation tools that I need you know
really all of the expenses I’m going to have so that’s a much much bigger scale
but if I’m actually looking at my potential net profits from all of this
if I do the goose operation right it stands to be about the same as the
industrial hemp and about two-thirds of what the CBD approach could be and so
from just a economic perspective and an economic sustainability perspective the
costs are such a different structure and it’s just such a different scale that it
seems silly not to go after the geese instead of the hemp so that’s my
decision I’m gonna be pursuing raising geese this year if anybody’s out there
and wants to buy a Christmas goose hit me up we’re gonna have plenty of goose
meat we’re gonna also probably host a dinner or something on the farm
and find some other ways for folks to get involved with our goose operation I
think it’s gonna be a lot of fun you know I’ve never tackled a project quite
this big agriculturally speaking but at the same time it’s just a little bit of
a escalation from what I did with the Ducks and so I feel like I’m ready for
it I do plan to spend an awful lot of time documenting their grazing
patterns and the forage quality to see what works because I hope to really try
to create something that other people can can build on and try outside of our
farm as a way to raise geese because I gotta say I believe that there is a real
opportunity when you think about poultry farming right chickens and ducks and
other turkeys while they get a little bit of their diet if they’re free-range
and out here they’re not getting all their diet from from the land geese have
the opportunity to have the majority of their diet come from the land and so I’m
gonna be giving this a shot maybe hemp will happen for me someday
for just not this year

Comments (66)

  1. Not many people like eat goose. To greasy and gamey taste.

  2. That is probably the most thought out decision I'll see him the internet today! Kudos to you for thinking it through and not going for the shiny penny just because it's the shiny penny.

  3. Great info, I can tell you've done your research, and I learned a few things! Great video. 🙂

  4. I think it’s a great idea and doesn’t it feel great to finally make a decision! How will the geese and ducks get along?

  5. In Arizona you go to jail for growing hemp. It completely illegal.

  6. I can't wait to see the goslings!!

  7. Goose meat…who knew? 🙂
    Hey Morgan, really enjoying the podcasts too! I can’t believe you’ve spoke with the same channels I follow. Not to surprising, as we’re all like minded about homesteading. Have you connected Al Lumnah? – I think he’d be a great interview. Jess and Serina were terrific – like minded, yet very different – well done. 😀🇨🇦

  8. Glad you came to a decision! We knew it would be a big one… keep dreaming! In the Bible it says “without a dream, the people perish”. ☺️ CORRECTION “Vision” not dream … Proverbs 29:18

  9. Let me tell you the truth if you dig deep enough you can find the proof that CBD is a scam Yea CBD is good for your body but its not the power of the cannabis plant that heals you it's the thc that is the powerful substance . F D A does not want us healed they want us sick so they can make trillons off our sickness. They are going on and on about CBD to keep you away from the THC oil. God gave us the recipe to make oil to heal the creatures body in Exodus 30;22-25. You can even listen to Rick Simposon the man who healed his cancer with THC oil not fucking cbd bullshit. Making cbd oil to heal you is like making water down meds.  don't know this for sure but im thinking when God gave Moses the recipe to make the oil there was males and seeds mix in it so im thinking that having the males and seeds mix in the oil will help the best! my wife has just gotten cancer so im about to find out about the males and seeds. I

  10. Morgan it's always interesting to hear what you've been up to…today is no exception! If you want a crash course in Goose Management just come down to LI and take a walk at some of our State Parks! We have goose problems all over and it boggles my mind that no hunting season has ever been tried! It's not like you need a gun or bow, just pick up rocks and you've got a great chance at landing yourself a free meal! Goose vs Duck, hmmmm, bigger bird…. bigger poop! LI was once the premier provider of gourmet Duck, hence the Long Island Ducks baseball franchise or for those old timers the NHL team that once played on Long Island also The Ducks! Duck farming eventually ended because of the negitive environmental impact it had on the tidal streams and ponds. I'm not sure what scale you'd have to grow to for profitability but have you considered the Goose Poop aspect of the endeavor? I'm thinking it's the Sh#&y part of the deal! Keep up the good work, I'm always curious as to where your heading next!

  11. "Quite the buzz around hemp production" – awesome reference!! Good planning leads to good results. You will do great! I know you thought of it – but there may be a cost for structure to house the geese.

  12. Glad to hear your going with the geese. I think it will be a wonderful opportunity for you. Wishing you the best in your new endeavor. Best, Francine

  13. Good choice I think Morgan. Producing good quality food, in my mind, is always the better option. I've never really understood the rationale for using prime agricultural land for growing hemp. Good luck with the geese!

  14. You're gonna get some crossbred ducks there at 11:02 😛

    Well, glad to hear this decision; as you know from that email I sent you, that was my conclusion as well. If you ever try muscovy ducks, they can survive off forage too (not grass alone, but grass and bugs and fruit and such), and they're a good bit quieter than both geese and mallard ducks 😉 Of course if you try and get self-sustainable with geese (as in breed your own goslings each spring) there's a winter feed cost for the geese too, they'll need feed/grain brought in just the same as ducks. Still, producing food seems like a more worthy enterprise than producing a sale commodity that can't feed people; I know you're a farm business and not a farmstead, but I think that's the reason I'm most happy by this decision.

    While I agree with the decision, one of your numbers caught my eye; $5k for a hoophouse seems high. Maybe if you purchase a pre-built hoophouse with installation, or if it's 50'x100' or something enormous like that, but I built mine (13'x48') for $1500 CAD, and while there's room for improvement on it because I hadn't built one before and consequently learned some things, you could build one for way, way less than $5k. Some of the modifications I'd make might bring my cost up to $2k CAD, but I can also source cheaper lumber now so end of day my cost might not change that much if I were to build an upgraded hoophouse… anyway, not sure you need one now with the decision to do geese but if you decide you need one to progress as a tree nursery or for your gardening needs we can chat about that more later 🙂

  15. Great job putting this together… And very good explanation

  16. Sounds wise. You can only do what you can do 🙂

  17. Glut on marijuana products in the west here. A lot of growers and dispensaries are struggling, even closing down. The idea you have for the geese sounds smarter. Build on what you know how to do already strengthens your farm. This will be interesting and I hope you find the better way to produce them you were talking about.

  18. Geese. Interesting. The upside is you can always eat them if your business doesn't work out.

  19. Out here in Oregon the CBD market is so saturated some friends of ours say that it has a tighter margin than hay! That is in a place where it is grown in the sun and not even in greenhouses. Good choice on the geese, they will graze like sheep. Plus they are better on the environment than hemp which is super nutrient dependent. Great video ~ Katie

  20. You should get a couple of kiddy pools for the ducks

  21. Do you already have a buyer for the geese? I personally don't know anyone that eats duck or goose meat. Is it used for something else?

  22. Are you going to get more ducks?

  23. I think it’s smart of you to forego the hemp operation right now, but I’m not so sure about the geese. I guess you like the ducks, so maybe it will be right up your alley. I just can’t help but think they might destroy your land and leave a stinky gross mess everywhere. I hope your wife is on board with it and I hope it turns out well for you!

  24. Great video Morgan. I love the idea of raising geese. You will have to elaborate on what breed you plan, if you are going to keep breeder geese, and exactly how much food they eat. Geese is one of the costliest meets which is raised on grass. Can't wait for future videos. 👍

  25. I think I would get 20 dollars worth of hemp seed and grow it just to see how that goes. It's supposed to be a pretty good cover crop. I wonder if it could be forage for your geese. And a hoop house would come in quite handy for whatever you do. But I think i would water my water situation set first.

  26. If you host a local dinner we will for sure come!!! This new idea sounds like so much fun! Can’t wait to follow this new adventure!!

  27. Checkout EQIP grant if you are interested in high tunnel

  28. growing hemp or weed for cbd, could attract criminals. also, screw dealing with the state.

  29. america is a very profitable market for chickens, geese, especially quail and duck, compared to china we dont produce

  30. Sounds good GSF!! I WILL BE TUNING IN!

  31. How can you protect the geese if they are free ranging? Why would it cost $700 to process them?

  32. I think your making a wise decision. Enjoyed hearing your whole thought process on the matter.

  33. That's awesome! Are geese eggs used from a culinary perspective also?

  34. Will you need to add a freezer or two, or do you sell them all fresh? Those guys are big to store 🙂 Do you buy both male and female/straight run? Already hatched? Do you process everything before the "bad" weather sets in? How many months is that? Do they lay enough eggs that it would be reasonable to keep some breeding trios? What sex are the couple you have? Are there choices in breeds? I'm actually sure that you will be answering these questions as time goes on. It will make a good playlist 🙂

  35. PS: I wonder what effect on the meat it would be to let the geese grow in a hemp pasture…

  36. I think you've thought this out nicely. Infrastructure and finding demand takes time and money but building on something you already know is an easier position to start from. What do you think would be the thing you'd add to make your life easier with the larger number of animals?

  37. What is your plan for predator control? Fox and coyote can and will wipe you out very quickly.

  38. Great video as always Morgan

  39. I personally dont think you'll be disappointed with the geese. We have been raising them (Toulouse, White Chinese and Buff Pomeranian) for years and absolutley love them, even more so than our ducks. One thing you should research is the market for goose meat in your area. I know here in TN, it's not as common as in other areas of the country, but heritage turkey, on the other hand, demands top dollar at market. Also, do you plan on withholding a few pairs for future stock or purchasing goslings every year? If you chose to breed your own, you could select for the traits you want most from your flock instead of chancing it every year with a hatchery. Incubating goose eggs can be tricky, but is far from impossible and is amazingly rewarding. I'm glad I just happened upon your channel and look forward to seeing what's in store for your farm. If you ever need any help with the geese, I'd be happy to share what they've taught me over the years. Good luck with your newest endeavor!

  40. Ill have a a look at what your going to do with the Geese. I`ve got Tououse. Love them, I don`t like processing them however.

  41. The geese might help warn you about predators.

  42. Love an other duck farmer

  43. Great video of the insight into your planning. Always play the contrarian and do not go rushing in. With respect to the geese you should try to increase the feed by sprouting the grain and feeding the geese barley grass, assuming they eat barley grass, that way you can feed the geese sprouted grass in the winter.

  44. I don't know man, Geese aren't majestic as ducks
    Ps, after watching some geese videos, I changed my mind they are very useful in gurding.

  45. Boston Hempire been my go to for hemp

  46. Stay away from hemp. It is already monopolized by Jews and Israelis. This also explains why this sector gets green light wave.

  47. it's hard to do it all when you're a one-man show.

  48. First and foremost you don't know what you're doing. Feminized can eliminate the process of males. Having the right strain is important. Like you said equipment. but if you ever interested in it may I recommend going with Afghan CBD there isn't any people in the market and it's a booming opportunity a plant that stinks like a skunk. Most of the hemp that's on the market is garbage.

  49. Hemp seed for duck feed. you would have my blessing if you only raised hemp for seed just like hay for cows.

  50. Carbon engineering is part of a solution.  Okay 1 acre of hemp! Produces 3 to 4 times the amount of oxygen"as a acre of trees, at the same                                                                              time sucking in 3 to 4 times the amount of carbon dioxide un oxygenated air as a acre of trees.  As a added bonus it rejuvenates replenishes the soil back to Garden of paradise type quality! After every harvest' even if the landscape has been previously stripped  robbed depleted of all its value from overharvesting things such as cotton corn soybeans. It has even been successfully grown and radiated soil.  Equally as amazing hemp!!                                                                               Makes over 26,000 different things)  couple examples bio fossil fuel  this type of fuel only releases the same amount of carbon dioxide un oxygenated air per mile, as a person does when the exhale!  Versus coal oil gas fracking sand oil the worst of all.  Which release tens of millions of years worth of petrified death! Per mile.  Hemp has been proven, to be 10 times stronger 30% lighter than steel stronger lighter than concrete stronger lighter than brick'                                                                           far more versatile making the design possibility practically limitless+ plus it is easier to work with on-site which would allow people to build stronger faster much more efficient at a fraction of the cost of what we are doing today.  Hemp has the same nutritional value, as rice corn beans wheat barley milk .                                                                                  Hemp clothing distributes moisture across the body more efficiently then any other material leaving a person feeling and smelling their best even under the most extreme circumstances.  It promotes good respiratory function,  so if a person has asthma allergies or other breathing complications just by wearing it's clothing a person will alleviate those symptoms with the potential of diminishing them all together.  And that is the short list.  So your solution is good.  However it is not going to create clean high paying jobs from coast-to-coast) that will improve upon and maintain the quality of our air water foods landscapes working living environment every day home products.                                                                              The powers that be are motivated by money.  So let them know that the real money!! Is in advanced power sources that are self sustainable renewable' new age high quality material resources substances that are stronger lighter easier to work with more versatile. Allowing people to use them as much as they would like or need without leaving any excess poison is toxic waste behind.                                                                                    We cannot be our best unless we improve upon and maintain the quality of life, so each person's generation may become stronger smarter healthier happier better off physically mentally financially possibly spiritually than the previous generation.  As of now today's people are living dying off to a diminished quality of life compared to our ancient ancestors that existed for thousands of years in the many great ancient civilized nations.  We have the manpower technology resources to make this kind of progress.  And if the motivational tool is finances this is where it's at.  Thank you for sharing your time here on YouTube.

  51. Glad to hear its not due to some anti pot smoking feelings. Really enjoying your channel. I have quite a few duck friends in my neighborhood. Cool to see you raise them and learn along the way.

  52. "Release the quackens!" haha.

    You and your wife are very wise to be very aware about not overextending. It's a mistake we made when starting out, and I'm still playing catch up years later. I was certainly too excited and ambitious about making a lot of dreams happen at once : )

  53. Morgan, how much for a Christmas goose?

  54. I be interested in leasing 2 acres from you to raise rainbow trout and connect an aquaponics greenhouse to it.

  55. Love what you're doing there! Have you looked into permaculture? Hemp pretty much grows anywhere, so it's a good 'starters plant' if you grow it for industrial purposes. Instead of clones you could grow some from seeds on cottonwool inside. Once they're plants you can take clones from them. This way you can multiply them exponentially and have a field of them up in a few years. Perhaps you could turn the fiber into hempcrete? It's a fairly cheap, easy, and nature-friendly process. If you can make a deal with a house builder somewhere, there's your first customer. Just some random thoughts. Curious to see what you'll come up with next. Keep up the good work!

  56. Go for it! Like it a lot more than the hemp idea. Goose for Christmas sounds good to me. Keep us informeb

  57. So after watching a couple of your videos how about rent some of your property out to a hemp farmer? Let them do the planting handling and split on profits?

  58. I couldn't imagine growing hemp….local pot heads would find out and raid your plants…..

  59. 20 pounds of cbd flower properly grown can fetch $100.00 per oz. or $32,000 for the 20 pounds

  60. you make a great point for your situation there bud.

  61. Cbd is snake oil.

  62. Consider growing chickpeas. It's a much more established "venture", with equipment and buyers being a lot more available.
    As more and more people stop eating meat or cut down, they're going to need lysine from somewhere else.
    Lysine is an essential amino acid, meaning the body can't produce it by itself, it has to be in the food.

    Chickpeas are by far the best source of it.
    At least do some calculations on the potential/probable expenses and income.
    Also, they need to dry out, which they can either do on the field, or in the barn (in case it's a rainy season).

  63. I’m not sure I agree. Hemp bud is going to explode. And buyers are going to want local organic craft bud. And once MJ is fully legal, you have clientele and can easily move into that space. Growing hemp to be processed into oil by big buyers is pointless, you will be crushed.

  64. Necessary scale is 50 acres or so at 300-400 per lb

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