Toxic culture of education: Joshua Katz at TEDxUniversityofAkron

Toxic culture of education: Joshua Katz at TEDxUniversityofAkron

Translator: TED Translators admin
Reviewer: Leonardo Silva Everyone is a genius, but, if you judge a fish
by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life
believing it’s stupid. There I was working with a student,
Natalie, on solving equations. She had to multiply 2 x 9, and got stuck. This happens all the time, I’m used to it, but I decided to go
for the teaching moment. All she had to do
is count by twos nine times. Now, she tried and failed
four different times, on her fingers, on paper,
in English and Spanish. 2? 4? 8? 12? Natalie was 16 years old
and in the 9th grade, and she’s not alone
not by a long shot. I teach at a high school with a student
population of near 3,000. It’s one of 30,000
high schools across the US, so you have to imagine
how many Natalies are out there. Now, I’ve seen the best
of our school system and I can say that our best students can compete with the best students
from around the world. In fact, when looking at the PISA results, that compares our students
to other countries, we currently rank in the 20s. Yet, if we disaggregate our results
by district poverty level and compare the US District
to those top countries by poverty rates, it is clear that our students
are at the top. But our best students are only a small
percentage of the overall population even in the honors classes. And then, what about the Natalies? I specialize in teaching algebra
to the bottom 25% of high school students and I work mostly with those students. Now, the best of those
students want to do well, but, when they realize
what they’re capable of, they’re either stuck in a path
of academic mediocrity or they’re so close to graduation
they just need a credit to pass. It’s almost like a scene
of wasted potential. Now, the worst of those students have had no education
of character, common decency, appropriate language,
appropriate behavior. They barely know right from wrong. These are the students
who are at risk of dropping out, incarceration, or abusing social welfare. Now, what’s out there waiting
for those students? Jobs, college? They’re in an education system that says if you don’t go to college
you have no worth. So, their only alternative
is to be underemployed, to find illegal work,
or to abuse social welfare. Those students are marginalized by what
I call a toxic culture of education. It doesn’t matter
if a student is a gifted artist, a loving caretaker,
a talented musician, or a poetic writer Those students are the fish being judged
on how they climb trees because we say the
end-all-be-all is college or we’re leaving students
to the lowest skill level work. Even in the honors classes, these students
are so wrapped up about grades and answers they’re afraid to learn, and that’s impacting
how they’re performing at college. But I am not here to talk about
the current student loan debt crisis. Now, you have to understand,
I don’t place the blame on them. Yes, they can take credit
for who they are, but this is about something
much bigger than the students. Our toxic culture of education begins
with a classic supervillain archetype. I focus on Syndrome, from The Incredibles. The supervillain’s plan is to unleash
a doom on to the world that only this supervillain can stop,
thus gaining all the desired power. Now this is exactly
what happened in education, in the 1980s and before, and then culminated
in “No Child Left Behind.” Private education companies realized
they could use public education, a multi-billion-dollar industry, to create a nearly endless stream
of taxpayer money. They channeled millions of dollars
into lobbying efforts and focused on two words,
“rigor” and “accountability,” and put everything into place. State statutes were passed,
district rules were enforced, and then finally No Child Left Behind
became the national standard. Don’t get me wrong about politics. These efforts were underway
long before they were passed, so both parties get to take full credit
for their disastrous results, especially with “Race to The Top.” We somehow took the education system
that produced the individuals who put a man on the Moon with technology
less powerful than the phone in my pocket, and characterized
that education system as a failure using the word “accountability.” We only have one way
to address accountability: Standardized testing. So, we implemented standardized testing, and then a 1983 publication
called “A Nation at Risk” showed standardized tests
proved schools were failing, teachers were failing,
students were failing. And, when everything is failing,
guess what we need? New text books, new workbooks,
new resources, new training, accountability systems, new schools,
private schools, charter schools. And who is it that creates all of these
things that all of a sudden we need? Our supervillain:
Private education companies. The only way to feed a business model
in this toxic culture of education is to perpetuate a picture of failure. I would love to meet any education company that has a business model that is built
upon long-term student success. There simply is no money
in long-term student success. Now, how is it that we can believe
that a standardized test is what accurately
measures student achievement? How can we believe
that it measures student growth, that moment when a student’s light bulb
is finally lit, “Aha!,” that moment when a student says thank you
for helping him graduate with a 2.0 GPA? How can we attach a number to that moment when a third grader finally has
the ability to write his own name, who by the way has been labeled a failure
for himself, his teacher, and his school? Yet we crave education standardization, we believe we need
these high-stakes tests, because we eat up the misinformation
provided by these companies and policies using a false validity
of their testing results. Our testing culture begins
in elementary school. Colleagues of mine work
with third graders, third graders who suffer from anxiety
from high-stakes testing. From a one-day, one-shot,
four-hour, computer-based test the future path of a student is set,
an academic identity is established, and a message is delivered loud and clear:
“Either you can or you can’t make it!” And no matter what
the teacher tells the student about how good they are
or what talents they have, if the student doesn’t score well
on that high-stakes test, the third graders know
exactly what it means and begin to define themselves, and it’s starting to happen
now in kindergarten. So, we continue this barrage
of standardized tests and the students continue failing, and the districts have to continue
the next initiatives that can solve the problems. Who is it that manufactures
these products? Who creates these solutions? Our supervillain, private companies
like Pearson and McGraw-Hill, who operate off policy and legislation
written by non-profit organizations and lobbying groups like ALEC,
the American Legislative Exchange Council. “Buy the next text book!
Buy the next workbook! Buy the next digital software package,
the next teacher evaluation system!” I have been through three
Algebra I textbooks in seven years, and still we stick
to the standardized tests. Guess who makes those? In this toxic culture, we illogically attempt to compare
education to business. We completely ignore the impact of poverty
and hunger on student achievement, and we pay no attention
to the non-cognitive factors, like personal habits and personal values, that are the realistic measures
and predictors of student achievement, and, that way, we can place the blame
on the schools and on the teachers to continue this cycle. And because we have
a toxic culture of education, the teachers and the schools have accepted
this accountability for all students, even those students. We take the blame for a student
who can’t focus in class because she hasn’t eaten
since yesterday’s lunch. We take the blame for a student
who’s always in trouble in school because he doesn’t know the difference
between right and wrong. We take the blame for a student
who can’t stay awake in class because she spends her nights
on a different couch depending on which friend takes her in. And when these students don’t score well – It’s about to get worse. The Common Core will do even more damage because of its emphasis
on high-stakes testing matched with its myopic standards
that are disguised in critical thinking. I’ve seen my daughter’s kindergarten
and first-grade assignments. This isn’t critical thinking. This is
developmentally inappropriate rote. You think they can fool me
with this stuff? Any education reform that doesn’t
address high-stakes testing and the non-cognitive factors
of true success, like character and integrity, is a complete waste of time
and it’s killing our kids. Right now, the public narrative
in education is all about curriculum, all about schools, all about teachers. We need to start paying attention
to our students and who they are. If a student fails Algebra I
in their 9th-grade year, I can tell you, chances are that it’s not because it was
too hard or they didn’t get it, Chances are that it’s not because they had
a bad teacher or were at a bad school. If a student fails in the 9th-grade year, the chances are it’s because the student was missing
some type with intangible characteristic, a non-cognitive factor,
that enables them to succeed, things like perseverance, initiative,
social skills, communication skills, curiosity, sometimes a full belly
or a good night’s sleep. Yet, none of these things are considered
in our definitions accountability. None of these things
are considered in our policies. So, all the talk about failing schools
and failing teachers and how we need to improve
the teachers and the schools needs to be shifted
to include failing students and how can we help the students. How can we help them be
better students, better people? How can we help them
with these non-cognitive factors like work ethic and character? How can we make sure
they’re getting enough sleep, getting enough to eat,
showing up for class? It’s the public narrative
that has to be shifted. We must talk about what is happening
in the lives of our students, even our honor students, because we’re simply creating
a massive population of future citizens who are afraid to attempt
anything challenging, unable to read or think critically, or unable to find a way
to earn a meaningful income. I’ll get to that in a minute. Right now in this toxic culture, all students are forced
to study abstract classes in order to be college-ready. And we throw around buzz words
like “rigor,” and “STEM,” and the public loves it. We eat it up, we think it’s fantastic, but we’re missing the point that “rigor”
has replaced the word “relevant.” I met with our district
and I pitched the idea to bring back home economics,
but this time as a math credit. First words in the response,
“That’s not rigorous.” So, forget teaching students
about measurement, taxes, discounts, loans, credit, debt, retirement planning, because it’s not as rigorous
as factoring trinomials and graphing logarithmic functions, so it can’t fit. There’s no room for that
in this toxic culture of education. There’s also no room
for the arts and for imagination, which are being systematically removed
from our public schools because I don’t think
anyone profits from those things. Now we have already felt the impact
of our education policies. There are thousands of highly
skilled jobs available right now. There’s opportunity for small business
development and innovation like never before. Yet, where are the majority
our students and graduates? There is an enormous opportunity
in this economy for our students but we just don’t enable it in the schools because we’re so focused
on accountability, and standardized testing,
and rigor, and college-ready. If we focus our attention
on getting students what they need to find their place in this economy, all students, especially those students,
would value education more highly, use their time more wisely, and make better decisions
outside of school. We’ve got to keep the college-bound
students going to college. We’ve got to continue that path. However, we need to be
more successful and more innovative. But what about the Natalies? I’ve got students that want to be
tattoo artists, mechanics, barbers, they want work. Some want to open their own businesses,
but they are those students. They constantly fail their classes,
they’re always in trouble in school, they may not even graduate. So, I say let’s scrap algebra for them, let’s teach those students
some tangible work skills that can help them in the future
the same way we used to do in this system before it was labeled as a failure. Why not get students out there
making a living for themselves, rather than us spending
another $ 10,000 in taxpayer money for another year of school for them
to learn how to factor trinomials? Why not get them into the economy? How do we deal with all of these
issues on a grand scale? I believe in Horseman’s 1850’s vision of an education system
that can improve mankind. In public education, we’ve got an amazing opportunity
to mold a better tomorrow. Yet, what we are currently doing
is so incredibly toxic. I have two solutions that would be better. The first idea I am not a big fan of.
In fact, I don’t like it. We could completely
defund public education, give back the $ 750 billion
into our pockets, no more taxpayer money going to private
companies and non-profit organizations in the name of public education and
on the heads of our public school children because that money’s not getting
to them or to the classrooms, and it’s certainly not going to teachers. My second idea, which I am in favor of,
is to double down on public education. We’ve got to eliminate
these toxic policies, eliminate this focus
on high-stakes testing, eliminate the corruption
in the cash flow, get the resources
more directly to the students, focus on them, on their abilities,
on their non-cognitive factors, train and allow the teachers to develop
relationships with their students, and assess them on what
they truly need to know: Thinking, reasoning, and learning. I believe in the potential greatness
of a public education system done right, and so do my colleagues. But, speaking of my colleagues,
the public narrative on teachers, thanks to education reformers
like Michelle Rhee and Bill Gates, is that our public schools
are teaming with horrible teachers. The reality is that most teachers are
accomplishing amazing feats of human achievement and motivation
with their students every day, and what they’re able to accomplish
is being done to spite a “professional” environment
of questioning, belittling, and self-doubt, due to accountability measures
and evaluation systems we had no stake in even creating. And teaching used to be called
the noble profession. So, why not make teaching
a profession once again? Why not train and allow the teachers
to develop their own assessment systems that can better fit their students needs? Why not encourage teachers
to collaborate with one another, or at least have a peer-review system
like in other professions? Why not involve teachers
in the policy-making decisions at the school level, the district level,
the state and national level? The truth of education policy is that
it is written and enforced by people who have spent either little
or no time in the classroom with the students these
very policies are affecting. Take a look at the makeup
of any boards of education, including local school boards
and secretaries of education. Why not involve the individuals
in direct contact with the students to help mold and shape
the environment of the students? Education is the only industry –
and it’s a $ 750 billion industry – that is developing a product without any
valid market research from its end users. Students aren’t asked
what they want or need, the teachers in the schools aren’t asked
what would work for their students, the public narrative has to be shifted! The schools and the teachers
are not the enemy! It is the private
corporations like Pearson that pay the lobbying groups like ALEC
to write these policies and laws that get passed over state dinners
and campaign contributions because of words like “rigor”
and “accountability,” to perpetuate a bottom line on the heads
of our public school children. Simply follow the money of all the public
tax dollars going to public education. How much of that money
is going to private companies and non-profit organizations for materials, training, resources,
vouchers, accountability systems, and the education bureaucracy
because the policies support that? Simply follow the money. So, we have to fight
this toxic culture of education, we have to change the public narrative
away from the curriculum, away from the schools,
even away from the teachers, and we have to focus on our students! We have to teach them how to think,
and how to learn, and how to innovate, not how to take tests. These are human beings! Why not stop judging the fish
on how they climb trees? (Applause)

Comments (100)

  1. Not all heroes wear capes… some petition to bring back home ec as a math credit 😭🖤

  2. This doesn't pass the smell test. When he lambasts private education companies, it makes me think of crony capitalism, not actual free markets. In a free market, people are attracted to results. That's why BJJ studios have become more popular while others have fallen in favor after UFC upturned martial arts, for example. When results are harder to see (maybe in youth-prolonging cosmetics), I think this is less true. Anyway, I'm done thinking about it.

  3. The bubble is bursting now. We're becoming enlightened and realizing what it really takes to be happy in life.

  4. Getting freaked out over a letter is outdated open your eyes Education System.

  5. Most students of color are lactose intolerant with symptoms ranging from stomach pains to allergies and fatigue, yet all are encouraged to drink milk at lunch. One can't help but wonder if this might have a negative affect on the performance of these students in the formative years of their education.

  6. "No child left behind" was the spawn of the corporate crony capitalist political system in Texas when G W Bush was the GOVERNER of Texas. It already showered signs of disaster when it was implemented in Texas but "the naysayers" were ignored because certain people were getting rich off the new system. Then Bush & Ken Starr carried this toxic program on to the White House & the decline of the entire US educational system was set in motion. Just like the god of Republicanism Ronnie Reagan set into motion a huge disaster by defunding mental health care, which has led to the homeless crisis (& mass shootings) decades later, Reagan's torchbearers, the Bush dynasty has also left it's indelible and disastrous mark which will stain us for years to come.

  7. The same people who cry foul about education and where it's heading tend to vote, and demonstrate for, and support the policies and people who CREATED THIS MESS. And, they'll howl bloody murder if you suggest home school or alternative learning (walking away from the public education cartel). The only way this ever changes is with individual parents showing a better way, getting it done, and making a trend. Government will NEVER be the answer. Since they've created the DEA, education has been in a death spiral.

  8. In a world where computers do most of the hard work, this is only more impactful.

  9. Do we have a better alternative than the current education system?

  10. I would skip days of school in highschool just to sleep because I would be up until 4am doing homework and projects… just to get even more dumped onto me the day after, I wanted a life outside of school, I suppose school busy work doesnt

  11. The “these are human beings” is a message the education system should really let sink in… you teachers get to go home after the day, maybe grade some papers if you want ITS YOUR SCHEDULE AFTER ALL, while teenagers are forced to do busy work instead of developing a social life

  12. The future parents of children should learn how to cook wonderful meals and manage a household, instead of being trained as astronauts.

  13. "Rigger has replaced the word relevant." Yes thank you! What is the point of sitting in a classroom for 6-8 hours a day learning things that have no practical application or relevance?!

  14. One reason why I liked to be a teacher but then quit

  15. Why would you standardize testing and education when what society values is a diversity of ideas?

  16. as Einstein said only a insane person repeats something expecting a different result
    we need to stop public founding….. we need to end public education and privatize…

  17. This was five, nearly six years ago. Now that Common Core and all these curriculum systems are in place, this man predicted it just right.

    I'll be helping the young with what they don't learn in school, and hopefully we can shift the public narrative back to the students.

  18. Nice speech but this just isn’t possible. And the left wants more people to simply walk across the border while don’t even speak English?

    Fact is, while it isn’t pleasant, you can’t teach 25 kids per class 25 different ways of learning. You teach, hopefully they will learn. If not, they can find what they love as they get a little older.

  19. Hes right and I want this toxic education system to change. There is no wonder everyone is either a youtuber or a rapper. ITS ALMOST 2020 AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED. THEY STILL RUN BASED ON INDIVIDUAL AGE VALUES

  20. But did really the American school system put the man on the moon? Or was it the old weimaran Germanys school system that ,, created" those genious scientist's?

  21. Just like Trotsky

  22. i NEED to get an A on this test, i NEED to understand this useless fact, i NEED to get into this college, or else i’ll never do anything in life…

  23. HEY HERE


  24. why is it if you say ur smart the first thing people do is ask math questions?

  25. "Why are there so many school shootings"

  26. Good to listen to as a student. I definitely agree with this man he explains it perfectly

  27. Couldn't agree more. Same thing has been happening in Brazil.

  28. I am 60 yrs old. I have been trying to get a college degree since the early 90's without even getting an AA. My grades are a 3.0, AS LONG AS THERE IS NO MATHMATICS. I can add, subtract, multiply, and divide easily. I cannot do algebra. So, because I cannot do algebra, even though I have never needed it in my line of work, I cannot earn a salary that can support myself. In fact, I have to train college grads who earn twice what I can hope to earn due solely to a peice of paper that says they successfully completed a college degree. Explain this?

  29. I've always wondered why school is required by law and yet you're required to pay to attend…. Or pay specific little fees to do something that's required to actually go through with the class

  30. I agree with most of what you said except taking failing students out of math. Every student who wants to take math should be allowed to take it, but you’re right that the ones who don’t should not be forced.

  31. I got points taken off for "not reading what was on the paper I wrote" when I simply rewording a few sentences. I was still talking about said subject matter and using the same reasoning and points. She called out multiple times that's not what the paper said.

  32. I didn't finish the video to the end, but did the speaker explain why PISA scores are a reliable enough measurement to indicate a problem with US students in comparison to overseas students, yet other tests' scores are not reliable measurements for students within the US?

  33. This is the reason I chose not to become a U.S. teacher and instead chose to teach abroad. Labels are extremely important here because they dictate what each person is and what "new and improved" system will be in place. Like the patriot act: spying is patriotic and we fall for it every time. No child left behind – lets do away with creative thinking, promote segregation, and make public schools profitable while keeping them enslaved. Wake up people! This isn't a new concept! Excellent talk, points, and passion!

  34. You need to take a trip to India and its high schools.
    You'll feel lucky that you are from the US..

  35. I graduated high school with a couple college credits from ap classes. I started college in honors. Turned out, I was suicidal at least since I was 16, probably since I was 12 or 13.
    And yet, the suicidal kid, the one who sacrificed all social health, all emotional health, all mental health, and eventually burned out to the point where I have memory problems and can barely think, this kid is a "success". Just because I graduated college.

    My life is apparently worthless as long as I die in college or as a college graduate.

  36. The worst thing is that the room is mostly empty…

  37. I just graduated last year, and I hardly remember anything because I hardly learned anything.
    I learned how to be smart about tests and get good grades. But did I actually learn and retain anything? No.

  38. This is amazing.
    "So wrapped up in grades and answers that they're unwilling to learn"

  39. After 6 minutes of rambling, you'd think a math teacher would supply some statistical proof to his thesis. Maybe because it's 11:20 pm and I'm getting tired and irritable, but I had to stop the video. Yes, teaching to tests is not a great method of teaching, but American kids were taking tests before standardized tests and were at the top of the world rankings in the 50's, I believe. Something else is holding American kids back and I'd say more of the blame is on the teachers (and bulldozer parents) who don't instill the desire and discipline to be educated. These kids just want to be famous and think in their heads they already are. However, they are just spoiled brats.

  40. Could not disagree more, the education system is there too educate students and measure how well they learn.
    Mathematics is the thing people complain about most but it is the most accurate measurement of how well someone can solve problems in the abstract hence the best measurement of how well someone can solve problems.
    This measurement is therefore extremely important when determining weather you are the right person for the job.
    Also development in abstract problem solving is probably one of the most important skills to develop as it is abstract so can be applied everywhere.

  41. It's a nice sermon villifying some important stakeholders, and I love his ideas for classes on home economics, but it's important to acknowledge that if we were to remove all accountability and fail to improve poor teaching habits, which the teacher union lobbies for to keep the status quo, then the Institution of education would rot simply out of failing to evolve, innovate, and become irrelevant as the world changes faster than educaction can keep up with. Not all teachers are masterpiece producing saints but some are amazing and Bill Gates and Cho would like to implement systems so that good teachers can learn from better teachers instead of insisting on the ever more irrelevant status quo.

  42. I don’t know how many times I’ve heard a teacher say, “We have to learn this because it’s on the test but you won’t need it for anything else.”

  43. I'm as disappointed as he is, we are evolving, THE WORLD is evolving and education doesn't change? This proves that the education system we use today is outdated, you have the power of learning at the palm of your hand with your phone for crying out loud!

  44. Standards based performance with performance based assessment is awesome.

  45. I always knew while in highschool that not one class I took, except "practical math" which was basically home economics, was absolute bs

  46. As someone who’s already graduated high school, I still haven’t used anything I learned beyond 7th grade in the real world

  47. Don't get me wrong, testing sucks. But the American school system has way worse problems that it's scientifically-proven useless tests. Developing kids and teens aren't getting enough sleep due to early start times, useless subjects are forced into student curriculum with no ways around it, many school buildings are out of date and not up to code. There's a plethora of issues with the academic system put in place, but I wouldn't put tests even close to the top.

    That aside, this dude started off by (and this is my interpretation, I could be entirely wrong) not only comparing kids in school to fish trying to climb trees, basically saying kids shouldn't go to schools because they aren't built for education, but also telling us a (presumably) HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT wasn't just bad at simple multiplication, but couldn't even ADD, and then claimed that was alright. Not exactly a great way to kick off a TED talk, and definitely doesn't make me want to engage or share with friends

  48. Doing things for students that accommodate them aren't turning children into "special snowflakes" (hate that word), you're treating children as human beings.

  49. I’d follow this guy in a revolution, 10/10 an inspiring leader

  50. I've always wanted to play video games for a living since I was seven, I am constantly laughed at and resorted to not talking about it at all to avoid taunting. People don't adjust to society and instead want to blend in with the average person. I, ME wants to me different and it just isn't encouraged whatsoever

  51. Do you think American schools are bad? No wrong, they are terrible.

  52. I have to study and do homework that takes up 2-6 hours of my day. I’m only in 7th grade. I sometimes sob from how stressful everything is. I only recently moved to this new area that has tons of strict rules. I have about 1-4 quizzes and tests a week. I used to be able to play on my computer and draw for most of the day. Now I have to work 24/7. Schooling is so messed up, I have to spend so much of my days on stuff I don’t enjoy. On some thing I won’t remember in a few months. It has caused me to have anxiety and makes it harder for me to fall asleep at night. I’m not even allowed to take my than 13 days away from my school to help better my mental and physical health. If I do, My family could go to court and possibly jail.

    Anyone have any advice for me…?

  53. In eighth grade (I start 9th this year) I was placed into algebra one, so I was considered to be an advanced math student. I had been failing math for four years straight with a E+ before being placed in that class. So, essentially, I was a below average math student in an above average math class. :/

    0/10 would not do again.

    (I know this is off topic, I just wanted to share it because I thought it was weird)

  54. I won’t be seeing this in school 😒

  55. This man needs a raise

  56. Dyscalculia: is difficulty in learning or comprehending arithmetic, such as difficulty in understanding numbers, learning how to manipulate numbers, performing mathematical calculations and learning facts in mathematics. It is generally seen as the mathematical equivalent to dyslexia.

  57. im 12 and i know what 2 x 9 is ._. is natalie ok

  58. How do I, a student, make a change?

  59. I had my whole school grades and life ruined bc I had undiagnosed crippling social anxiety. No one bothered to care even tho it was so obvious

  60. Schools should really promote trade schools as an alternative to college!

  61. Before exams, I force myself to put in all the information into my head. Durinng examination, I regurgitate all the "knowledge" in my brain. After the exam, I'm like "did I study this before?"

  62. Teachers: "this will be tested in the exam." "You have to remember this as it will be tested in your exam." "this will be tested in the exam so you will have to memorize it."
    Me: " Am I learning or just studying for the sake of exams??"

  63. 100% of your top students are Asians😁

  64. Man this guy’s amazing 😀 he understands completely!

  65. Someone had to say it

  66. The idea that the future of today's students is in the hands of private companies is disturbing, to say the least…

    I encourage all of you to work with your peers/students/children, and show them the beautiful, potent stuff that standardized testing seems determined to sterilize. Don't wait for large-scale public backlash, or simmer in your frustration; make whatever difference you can make, now. In my years of tutoring, I've learned that no matter how small a step may seem to be, it's another step towards turning the tide, and I promise you the effects go deeper than you know.

    Also, I'd love if y'all would share what you're working on or planning to do, to provide ideas and inspiration for others! We've got this, together.

  67. Uh this is not a toxic culture, this is greed and corruption. Gotta go up to academia and graduate school for toxic culture

  68. We are smarter than people give us credit for

  69. “Don’t let schooling get in the way of your education”


  70. Today’s society is constantly raising it’s expectations based on letters and percentiles, but the path we have to take in order to even attempt to be seen by society as “smart” is old, out dated, and doesn’t leave enough room for our big dreams. I know way too many kids my age that suffer from depression because society has told them their dreams are worthless and won’t make them happy, that only good grades and a good job can do that.

  71. I love how pissed this guys is

  72. 2014 and still valid right now, in 3.080. Oh my gosh!

  73. Joshua Katz: "Toxic culture of education"….yeah, ok, high school math teacher.
    you are a moron…

  74. Sounds like Joshua Katz is asking for Socialism, a publicly funded system for individuals rather than for profit, in the American education system.

  75. I either want to go into Animation or Foley after I get out of high school, but I don’t even have enough time to think about that. The amount of homework and school work I have is insane, no student can complete these papers without having a literal panic attack…

  76. The only thing I learned from school is stress, depression and being a failure.

  77. The one thing I hate about teachers is when I ask one something like: “When will I ever need to write a full Shakespearean Sonnet in the rest of my life if I am going to be a computer scientist?”
    and they’ll answer with:
    “Well, it teaches you how to learn”

    I mean, what is the use of knowing how to learn if it isn’t applied to something useful?

    The education system still pains me today.

  78. I wish I were half the public speaker he is. He didn't seem to stumble on one word and had a great flow.

  79. Don’t worry about me… about the step… lol. Wait …I am still waiting .. as long as you are communicate..

  80. I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. DO NOT base my worth on a TEST SCORE.

  81. Damn, i used to have a big dream of becoming an astronaut. Now im just here at highschool aiming to pass exams and graduate.

  82. My mom says that if I’m on my phone too much then I’ll do bad in school, but I’ve learned more from my phone than school.

  83. I'm not sure how well the poverty factor holds up in PISA evaluation, since other countries also have poverty. Can someone comment?

  84. God damn it, that's the best speech I've ever heard in the entire 33 years of my life.

  85. I'm so glad I'm not young. I survived, and if you are like me? that's a great accomplishment in itself.

  86. Boy you said it all Sir…I hope we can meet some day or that the Edu.Sys. allows guys like us to return it to a more Classical Sys. of teaching….only with "Modern Survival Skills"?…Seeing the incorrect results of the end, of all the shop classes as well as Physical Edu. and any Modern Form of "practical financial knowledge" of survival, has produced this terrible situation….{of course everyone is going to be attending Harvard Right?}… a high school music teacher this SADLY rings just a loudly here in 2019…We can only hope that the reins of the American Edu.Sys. end up in the right hands someday by folks that want "CORRECT REULTS" for the people involved….Our KIDS…

  87. I wish school would prepare you for adulthood I don’t know what I’m going to do when I leave school

  88. Maybe we should just actually fund our schools.

  89. Yeah because why do I need calc for farming….

  90. I was one of the top science students in high school but I didn't have any passion for pursuing a career in science and technology. So I switched to humanities papers and never looked back, I felt I for once found something I could live for through this field of social justice. Having a career in science and technologies isn't always the best especially if you have 0 passion, it's just existing in a status quo and not living in and through your destined field of influence, I would rather live then just exist….

  91. The real narrative is that the system and its elites want all people under control of their ideology. Individuals with oppressed imagination, oppressed critical thinking, oppressed critical conscious, oppressed possibilities to make changes. Only profit for the investors. Well said, Mr. Katz.

  92. it's for all these reasons that I want to be a teacher. I have an associates degree in visual arts and within the next three years will have one in music education; I've always loved both but never had access to them in my school system because they were underfunded or just cut completely. hopefully wherever I end up working when I'm finish I can have at least a little impact on that system's arts program. Hopefully.

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