ArticlesBlog Spray foam insulation nightmare: What can happen if it’s not installed correctly (CBC Marketplace) August 31, 2019100 Related posts: Moving company scams: What you need to know. (CBC Marketplace) Grad trips gone wild: S-Trip’s high school trips (CBC Marketplace) Privacy and smartphone apps: What data your phone may be giving away (CBC Marketplace) Katie Whitefoot: Improving the Adoption of New Products in the Marketplace Related tags : and cbc marketplace energy efficiency Home Improvement (Interest) insulation off gassing Spray Foams the tom Post navigation Previous Article Is probiotic yogurt effective? (Marketplace) Next Article Judge rules against Johnson & Johnson in historic opioid lawsuit Comments (100) July 16, 2019 at 3:03 pm Why didn't they use the usual insulation pads? Never spray an attic. Florida needs foam insulation? Reply July 16, 2019 at 3:53 pm I did blown isolation in my attic. it was diy no need for gloves or respirator. HUUUMMM that should be a clue. I worked great by the way. Reply July 16, 2019 at 5:31 pm When I worked for a medical company who manufactured Medical Life Support Ventilators in the late 70s we used this spray foam for making packaging inserts for shipping of finished product within a year we discovered the chemicals used was making employees sick who was performing this operation & may cause contamination to the product completely against FDA GMPs of adulterated products & immediately stop using it… This tells us something about this product although cheaper than styrofoam inserts it wasn't worth the risk of a lawsuit nor a FDA audit investigation… FDA Good Manufacturing Practices (GMPs) guidelines are very strict & pacific.. Reply July 16, 2019 at 5:46 pm Application is THE problem WITH ALL chemicals so, duh!! Reply July 16, 2019 at 5:48 pm NONE OR DAMN FEW READ ANY INSTRUCTIONS!! Reply July 16, 2019 at 9:45 pm QUIT MOVING THE CAMERA AROUND!!! We don't all have A.D.D.! Reply July 16, 2019 at 10:43 pm After watching this, I'm thinking someone, in the supply chain, Went For A Cost Cutting, With A Cheaper Foam!. I think This Because Most Of The Jobs Had NO Problems. Find Out Who's Foam, Was It??? Reply July 17, 2019 at 2:36 am Seems like the first couple were better off in Italy capish?…….before you sign anything first ask about what type of warranty you're getting…..if it sounds too good it probably is……. Reply July 17, 2019 at 5:11 am Been better off to have laid styrofoam sheets in the attic. I know, a little after the fact………🤢🤮🤮🤮 Reply July 17, 2019 at 5:15 am Seriously, don’t all of you think this stuff should be put on hold until this is researched more?? I wouldn’t touch this stuff with a 10’ pole!!😬😬😬 Reply July 17, 2019 at 8:57 am The formaldehyde is coming from their carpet Reply July 17, 2019 at 8:57 am I'm a licensed home inspector in Greenville South Carolina accurate inspection service Taylor's South Carolina Reply July 17, 2019 at 11:01 am Get the foam removed and sue the installation company… Move back into your house. Reply July 17, 2019 at 6:53 pm I can't imagine someone using this product. Anytime you have to mix harmful chemicals and stay away for 24 hours, should be a red flag for anyone. It's something I would never do. Paper insulation is just as good and much cheaper. Reply July 17, 2019 at 8:24 pm Had a friend who worked at an insulation company. When his girlfriend cheated, he got a 25 lb insulation tank, and opened it and threw it in her car and shut the door. Whole interior became a block of solid Rock hard foam. Reply July 17, 2019 at 9:31 pm Corporatism. Reply July 18, 2019 at 5:22 am down in South Texas is being used alot, and let me tell you I go in attics sprayed with this stuff and it's a walk-in cooler.but they usually only spray the roof rafters not the ceiling rafters where all the wires and plumbing go. Reply July 18, 2019 at 5:28 am I am not downplaying the real dangers & concerns surrounding insulating spray foam but I find it hilarious at the comment that Frank makes at 6:54, (paraphrased) "I am not wearing protective gloves because I don't want the chemicals from the gloves affecting the samples of foam I am cutting out". Then, Frank, the chemical expert, puts the samples into plastic Ziploc bags, WTF. Then, at 14:34 the testing results are reviewed. To no surprise, some nasty chemicals are found. What is bizarre to me is that the say that they found formaldehyde which is not listed in the foam ingredients but they plainly insinuate some sort of malfeasance on the part of the foam manufacture. In my opinion, Frank, the chemical expert, contaminated the foam sample when he put it in a Ziploc bag. If you do a little research, Ziploc bags are produced with highly toxic chemicals including formaldehyde. All this said, there is no news report of any kind that you can believe. It is imperative that people of this planet educate themselves in the truth and question everything. Reply July 18, 2019 at 5:51 am I knew the Russians had something to do with this… Reply July 18, 2019 at 12:30 pm I have never seen spray insulation in an attic in that scale.. ..Only crawlspaces, garages and some basements.. ..attics should only use insulation batt or cellulose insulation.. ..The heat from the attic could be interacting with the chemicals in the spray foam… just saying.. Reply July 18, 2019 at 6:08 pm The reason why foam is probably better is because it is by far the most effective vapor barrier you can have. But, if the temperature during application isn't warm enough it won't cure right. And if both chemicals aren't mixed at the correct ratio, those areas in question might never actually cure…leaving sections of raw chemical. Reply July 18, 2019 at 6:29 pm If where you spray isn't like a fridge then it is not where foam behaves best. Reply July 18, 2019 at 11:53 pm In my unprofessional opinion. 1. they did not mix the chemicals correctly 2. they should not be in the house while they spray 3. the chemicals they claimed to use is not what they used. They used something cheaper, that is why the smell of formaldehyde. 4. the company that sprayed is responsible, an extra 5 minutes making sure the chemicals mixed correctly could have saved a lot of expense and suffering. Reply July 19, 2019 at 7:16 am Just use the old school roll in insulation. Put it in by yourself to save money? Reply July 19, 2019 at 10:13 am Even if it didn't have these problems, I wouldn't use it. A house needs to breathe, this foam makes a house too airtight. Reply July 19, 2019 at 2:01 pm https://youtu.be/0Hh5MYv7lWc?t=259: I really hope he doesn't breathe insulation. Reply July 19, 2019 at 2:53 pm It starts out like some kind of high drama slasher movie with a hint of "Jaws". Reply July 19, 2019 at 3:47 pm Well boycott THERMO SEAL, that guy is shady. Reply July 19, 2019 at 4:07 pm The process is soooooooo simple.How can they possibly mess it up so badly? Reply July 19, 2019 at 6:59 pm The housing industry knew about the danger of asbestos for decades before they did anything to change it because they had to find a feasible alternative first. It wasn't until fiberglass batting was developed to an acceptable level of efficiency that asbestos was suddenly banned. Now the industry is keeping a new secret: Fiberglass batting is hazardous. They tried to develop spray foam insulation but failed so the industry currently has no choice but to pretend it still doesn't know fiberglass batting is hurting people for another decade or two. Our economy would tank if we suddenly banned the use of fiberglass for insulation without a feasible alternative because the entire residential construction industry would stop dead in its tracks. Reply July 19, 2019 at 7:14 pm I wonder about the people who had their houses sprayed back in the 80s? Could it be the Same stuff? We had ours done then. It certainly didn't Work! But I don't recall any odor.The friend who did it is dead so we can't ask…… Reply July 19, 2019 at 11:31 pm The fishy smell came from the fish oil that was added to the foam to provide health benefits Reply July 20, 2019 at 1:26 am Yes, I agree with the family…..REMOVE ALL of it! (They will never feel safe with it again). Reply July 20, 2019 at 2:25 pm The guy even sprayed over the Christmas lights Reply July 20, 2019 at 2:46 pm The lizard @11:18 even knows "This is not good" Reply July 20, 2019 at 7:22 pm I gave my wife a spray foam breast enhancement while she was asleep. I used the triple action foam. She woke up and is a 44 ddd. Reply July 21, 2019 at 3:53 am The W5 journalist wasn't in the house during the cure time and he immediately got a headache, so that's just BS about them being chemically sensitized during the cure time. Reply July 21, 2019 at 1:31 pm In a nutshell, you've got issues with (trace amounts of common solvents in nearly every product you purchase) My god, let's call the lawyers Reply July 21, 2019 at 7:33 pm I bet the trailer that they are staying in has urethane foam in it. This is a new revelation to me and I used to spray urethane foam, what a shame… great insulation that could be harmful to people! Reply July 21, 2019 at 9:40 pm In the last few weeks , I refused to have my house weatherize or insulated because I have asthma. The the process was free to me because it was through the city. I knew without a doubt I shouldn't have it done and now I'm glad I did not. they never told me I had to take a week off from work, nor did they tell me I could not stay in the house. All I pictured was a bunch of holes in the walls and men walking around in white suits and goggles. The mess was more than I could handle, so I declined. They also told me that I could not have my house rewired after this process. Reply July 22, 2019 at 4:01 pm looks like a hit piece done by other types of insulation. Reply July 22, 2019 at 4:02 pm LOL rich people's problems. Reply July 22, 2019 at 9:53 pm Nothing to see here, move along Reply July 22, 2019 at 11:04 pm You need to do a gas anslysis. Reply July 23, 2019 at 1:29 pm EASY FIX: Install exhaust fan at one end of the attic, and fresh air intake at the other end of the attic. However, I am no pro and have no experience with this stuff. I just think if the attic has an exhaust fan, you wouldn't notice anything in any room under the attic. I could be wrong, but if it was my house, that would be my first action. Reply July 23, 2019 at 8:44 pm So what is the problem? Formaldehyde fumes I’m guessing? Reply July 24, 2019 at 1:34 pm it was not heated write when being sprayed happens every time I c this problem my bosses house same problem and we Ben doing this 4 30 years Reply July 25, 2019 at 1:09 pm She means So they don't act out like normal children will do in any situation like that period. Reply July 26, 2019 at 1:34 am I was about to do this Thanks to this I will not thanks for the info Reply July 26, 2019 at 6:50 am So what's the best insulation Reply July 27, 2019 at 6:33 am That lady needs to have her skin checked. Reply July 27, 2019 at 1:24 pm Good story! Well done! Reply July 27, 2019 at 5:50 pm It looks like they sprayed from the ridge and gable caps Reply July 28, 2019 at 10:02 pm русские есть? Reply July 29, 2019 at 12:15 am Dumb Canadians!!!Uh, A thermal Barrier would have been optimal and safe! Whiny, dumb Canadians!!! Reply July 30, 2019 at 10:26 am Why spray foam when you can use an all natural product called fiberglass? No cemicals, no mixing or spraying… Reply July 30, 2019 at 4:03 pm The latino employees can barely read and write.Mistakes will happen, do not blame the technology. Reply August 1, 2019 at 2:39 pm Filling yr house with chemicals can only be bad for humans and animals go with natural materials like wool Reply August 1, 2019 at 11:40 pm People seem to have forgotten the Chinese Sheetrock Scandal. Those chemicals are listed in the sheetrock. Look into that millions of homes were torn down or still haven't been tested. Reply August 2, 2019 at 9:25 pm I hate the ads that pop-up in the middle of the video. Reply August 3, 2019 at 1:39 am 11:17She has seen allYou must question this being Reply August 3, 2019 at 3:35 am 19:00 were sorry they got sick but they paid for it so basically it's not our problem. but we added in our contract about the safety hazards now Reply August 3, 2019 at 9:16 pm Come on two months later and the family is still having the same problem? It's common sense that it was an error of the installer, their screwup! Reply August 5, 2019 at 3:28 am I deliver with truck like 10 tanks of this they call great stuff Foam that is hazardous material A and B tanks to state of Wyoming.They use for oil lines from Alaska to Texas.And is great for temporary use as they due to keep pipes straight for welding.But will newer spray in my house.All foam as the Polystyrene (C8H8)n <<< are radioactive. If I haul in my trailer 10 tanks in case they opens and mix will close that much road like miles and cleaning will be over $20.000 then you know how bad it is. All load was 41.000 lb.Thanks God no more to take that load. Reply August 5, 2019 at 7:31 pm Pink panther is always right. Pink or green insulation only for me . Reply August 6, 2019 at 3:12 am The Co that put it in should be forced to pay for removal. Reply August 6, 2019 at 1:37 pm "I live and breathe insulation" Reply August 6, 2019 at 1:48 pm Benzene is nasty Reply August 7, 2019 at 9:07 am Using a non-vapour permeable foam such as this would not be allowed under the 'Building Regulations' (Part L) in the UK.We build very differently too; many American houses are just sheds!All loft insulation must be vapour permeable and the loft space requires specified levels of ventilation too, to avoid condensation forming on the roof tiles, which has been proven to rot the tile battens!Thank goodness we have more regulation than the US, but isn't that the same old problem with America – less regulation gives more profits, and these companies are making lots of money, that's all that counts in the US! SICK COUNTRY! Reply August 7, 2019 at 7:12 pm My brother "discovered" spray foam 20 years ago. He DIY and learned well how to install it right. Know your chemical soup. Reply August 8, 2019 at 12:40 pm Nice fear mongering. "Are you SCARED?". How can I really assume this is good journalism when you are using 1950s horror movie theremin tracks as the lead in to the test results? Very few facts. Very much scare tactics and delivery. Is this an issue? Yes, Is this blowing things out of proportion as a risk? Damn straight. Is it done in a very one sided way, yes it was. Reply August 8, 2019 at 12:46 pm These pansies cry and whine and bicker instead of going up in the attic and pulling all the foam out they go by a camper instead I'm doing the work themselves they let their home just go. What a bunch of losers all they had to do is do the work themselves and take the damn foam out! Reply August 8, 2019 at 12:53 pm My friend's gun shop just caught on fire from a lithium battery exploding and the only thing that saved the shop from burning down was the foam insulation so this stuff could go either way it could be a bulletproof product if installed correctly. My advice would be to do some research into the company and see how many complaints they've had before using them Reply August 9, 2019 at 9:56 am Lhess Chemicals the better…for sure this Foam is pure chemicals therefore, you will be breathing that for life.and if not, long term cancerigenous chemicals. You save on Hydro to spend with the Hospital. Reply August 9, 2019 at 10:08 am Business owners only wants the money, they do not take responsibility for nothing. Reply August 10, 2019 at 12:26 am Oh, stop crying lady. It's unseemly and manipulative. Reply August 10, 2019 at 2:12 am “Alex Shchitts” I’m so immature 💩 Reply August 10, 2019 at 8:56 pm I can tell you guys EXACTLY what is wrong here. The INSTALLER/S applied additional layers of insulation BEFORE the PREVIOUS layers were CURED. In other words, it WAS NOT ALLOWED TO DRY. Subsequent layers applied SEALED IN the UNCURED INSULATION. The Company that sold the service, as well as the UNTRAINED applicator/s are LIABLE. PERIOD.In the US, we have a choice, one choice is pulverized NEWSPAPER- blown in wet, allowed to dry, NONTOXIC. Get an ATTORNEY. Reply August 10, 2019 at 11:59 pm Pay the people they’ll hush and go away. Reply August 12, 2019 at 1:15 pm drawn out and melodramatic like bollywood: how is mixing spray foam important, and what does it release into the air, etc? Reply August 12, 2019 at 7:51 pm This is one reason I build with Insulating Concrete Forms (ICFs). Reply August 12, 2019 at 8:12 pm So many rich folk..so many tears. Meh Reply August 13, 2019 at 8:56 am Yes while watching this video i too contracted aids & spray foam cancers. Give me money Reply August 13, 2019 at 7:57 pm How would a house breathe. Sounds like they’re smothering the house Reply August 15, 2019 at 11:26 pm Ants love to bed in spray foam. Reply August 15, 2019 at 11:30 pm SO clean out the attic… Work on it everyday util you get it all out.. cut your losses and charge it to the game. Reply August 17, 2019 at 4:02 am it's very toxic no one should be in the structure while sprayed, then 24 hrs after up to 48hr to cure Reply August 18, 2019 at 1:34 pm Install a couple high volume air mover fans in the attic. One bringing fresh air in, the other pushing out…..it will cure out. Place 5 gal buckets of activated charcoal up there as well. Sell your camper… Reply August 18, 2019 at 6:34 pm I work with this everyday, after a few minutes it sets up 96%. It’s all the the way cured in 24 hours. Whoever sprayed it probably sprayed bad foam, maybe due to spraying it too fast to where it doesn’t set up correctly. That’s what I’ve learned. Also maybe it didn’t get aired out correctly, but when we scrap foam after a day or two the foam smells a little bit, but nothing bad. Also it’s great for helping the stability of the house Reply August 20, 2019 at 11:00 am Do a search on spray foam insulation and termites Reply August 20, 2019 at 7:35 pm Aren’t contractors in Canada required to be insured and bonded? Reply August 22, 2019 at 6:16 am THAT IS TERRIBLE! THAT NASTY OLD MAN IS A BIG LIAR..PLS DO NOT BUY ANY OF HIS BUSINESS.. SUE THAT EVIL TROLL..I PRAY U WIN YOUR CASE. Reply August 23, 2019 at 3:22 am If they can't smell anything … make sure they stay inside for a couple of hours with the windows closed … at gunpoint if necessary. Make sure you video everything. Reply August 25, 2019 at 2:47 pm Half of this is total bs, i was an applicator for over 5 years and there was not one complaint about the foam regardless of how thick it was. Its easily the most effective insulation, if it's done correctly of course Reply August 25, 2019 at 9:23 pm She might want to take them stickers off of the Respirator….just sayin. Reply August 26, 2019 at 12:30 am Love that the couple traded up the cheap mold infused home for an even cheaper formaldehyde infused chinese trailer. Not gonna be any problems there… and on a side note; you ever wonder what happened to all those discount FEMA trailers from hurricane katrina? Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:35 am of course the foam manufacture company is not going to want to pay for the removal… big money, these companies will go out of business if this happens to often. Reply August 29, 2019 at 8:06 pm By the company changing their policy in writing …. Looks bad And i promise they paid for the repairs = ) Reply August 30, 2019 at 6:16 pm So. What you are saying is, use fiber-glass and move on. Reply August 31, 2019 at 8:59 am Problem is so common they had to go to Florida to find another case. Reply Comment here Cancel reply Comment Name * Email * Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.