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Installing SolarWinds Products From the Microsoft Azure Marketplace – SolarWinds Lab Episode #80

Installing SolarWinds Products From the Microsoft Azure Marketplace – SolarWinds Lab Episode #80


[upbeat electronic music]>>Hello, and welcome
back to SolarWinds Lab. And joining us today are Pierre and Sacha and we’re talking about
marketplace applications. You know, all those
applications that you find inside of your cloud host that are, look like they’re pretty much
ready to go, pre-provisioned, and you can pretty much
just click next, next, next.>>Well, they are ready to go. That’s the whole point of the marketplace.>>And at this point, how many, a typical marketplace will
have thousands of apps.>>Thousands of apps. That changes every month,
but yeah, thousands.>>And we’re gonna showcase
a little bit today about SolarWinds applications
on Microsoft Azure from within their marketplace.>>Right, I mean, Database
Performance Analyzer has been out there for a long time. You have people who need to, you know, that classic
case of sort of being the accidental DBA, you’re looking at the application, then all of a sudden wait time. what is wait time, and
what are the factors that might be conspiring in
the way that it’s operating, but in that case, it might be something that’s running in Azure
SQL or some other database that you’re actually running in the cloud. So there are some other apps
that we’ve added recently, and we’re gonna get into that. So the main things that
we’re gonna talk about here are what, how are they different? The things you need to know about, maybe instance sizing
when you launch them, and a little bit about migration,
but maybe not too much, ’cause we’ve covered that in
a couple of other episodes. So where do we wanna start?>>Well, I think just what
is the value of, you know, what is the value of a marketplace?>>I think that’d be great.>>Yeah.>>So, the marketplace
really is a place for ISV, so independent software vendors and other companies to
basically provide their goods, their software, their services,
in a way that’s prepackaged. But also the big thing is, to put the app into the marketplace it has to go through a
series of validation. Will it deploy properly? Will it behave the way you want it? So there is a level of comfort.>>Right, the organization
that put that app in the marketplace stands behind it more than if they just handed
you an image, for example.>>That’s right. Plus, when you’re
looking at a marketplace, or if you’re deploying anything anywhere, the thing that always gets
you is the dependencies. So you start deploying something,
and then halfway through it says, “Oh, excuse me,
you need .NET version X.” And you go, “Ah, that’s
not the one I installed.” Or if it’s on Linux, or
whatever platform you’re using, there’s always dependencies that are, or preconfiguration or prerequisites that you need to–
>>Platform dependencies.>>Platform dependencies. Where you’re looking at marketplace, you don’t have to deal with any of that ’cause it’s already built-in.>>Right, and then just the configurations that we were talking earlier on about just, you know, expected configurations. It’s the fact that you don’t have to worry about all the minute details. There’s some of those
dependencies, for sure, but it’s all there for you. You don’t have to worry about
provisioning the hardware because, of course, you’re
running it on a public cloud. You don’t have to worry
about all that provisioning and sitting there watching
the software to load and finding those dependencies. How many hours have we all spent installing software in the traditional way on a PC or server?>>Yeah, deploy the server first, then apply all of the updates,
then wait for three reboots, then install your dependency,
then reboot one more time, then install the products that you want, and then you get into the configuration. As opposed to find, create.>>Right, and you can use
that time to go get a coffee, or take a break, or something else. Well, the other thing is, it also takes care of a lot
of version control, right? Like, especially for
platform dependencies. The rest of it is, you know, when you look at the
requirement spec sheet, something that’s in a
marketplace is going to actually, that’s already been
thought through for you. So you don’t even have to worry about, well, this database version or that platform requirement version, that’s already been included, and we’ll get into it a little bit later how it can actually help,
there are some versions of it that’ll actually help you
make sure you receive updates from the original publisher for those marketplace applications so that you’re always up-to-date, and you know that you
need to be up-to-date, or maybe complete an upgrade.>>Right, well, you know, it’s, you do get offered some choice,
so if you want to run it on one version of Windows
Server versus another, and one version of SQL
Server versus Azure SQL, then, you know, these are all
things that you can select through that process. At least, you know, again, what we’ll show you in a short while.>>And some marketplace
vendors will provide that as a black box, so that it
ensures that you can’t go and, I can’t mess up, for
lack of a better word, the base configuration, or
others, such as SolarWinds, I think actually allow
you to get into the box and use it, so–>>We’re always gonna give you admin access to anything that you’re operating, because our customers are administrators, and in a lot of case,
they’re senior administrators who need to be able to have
that really granular control over the system, so we’re
not gonna lock that down so that they can’t access it.>>Yeah, but it all depends
on what you’re looking for in the marketplace. So if you’re looking at, for example, a hardened application
gateway from company X, well, they’re gonna provide
it to you in a locked box. So it’s a black box that you
deploy in your environment, then you use it.>>All right, so let’s do this. Sacha, I’d love to see a demo
of how this actually works, like how to install a SolarWinds product from the marketplace, I
think it’d be really cool. We could talk about the differences versus installing it yourself. We can talk a little bit more about the difference between maybe a sort of commercially-packaged
marketplace app versus an image versus
a couple of other ways of packaging applications. I promise not to, well, if I say I promise not to talk about containers, and then I talk about containers
and I’m talking about that. Sort the difference between an application and a container in the marketplace, and some will actually include
container instances as well. So we’ll talk about that in a little bit. But mostly what the differences are between installing from
marketplace, when it’s appropriate, and maybe what some of the benefits are.>>Yeah, well, let’s take a
look and actually roll through and actually get something deployed.>>Let’s do it.
>>Okay. Okay, so we’re gonna start off in the Microsoft Azure portal. Many of you already familiar with that. I’ve actually gone into the dashboard and so we can actually see from here what resources I’ve got running. As I said, if you’re
already familiar with this, then it’s gonna be a
familiar experience to you. One thing I’m gonna jump into, because obviously we’re talking about it, is the marketplace. And obviously, you know, Pierre, we were talking, thousands
of applications and–>>Thousands of applications
and services, yes.>>Yeah, and I think that’s the key thing, is you’ve got services and applications that can run on IaaS, on
PaaS, as well as SaaS, that you can get right from
within the marketplace itself.>>Yep, and depending
on what your needs are, if you actually need, or if you actually know
what you’re looking for, you can basically filter
on specific vendor, on specific operating systems
that you’re looking at. ‘Cause sometimes if you’re just fishing, it can be a little hard to
find what you’re looking for. So, in your case, you’d be
typing, what, just SolarWinds?>>Just SolarWinds, yeah. In fact, it’s nice how they, you know, you’ve grouped it into
kind of key categories, which is super-helpful when you’re, you know, when you know
what you’re looking for.>>Except, I absolutely agree
that filtering is fantastic. But the other thing, too, is, I mean, Google is a wonderful thing. Like, when you’ve got an
idea about a thing, search. Free search is really handy. And in this case, because
this is essentially a curated set of applications, it really narrows it way down to a subset, so I find a lot by searching. Like, just kind of exploring with terms and then looking at the
applications that come up, and reading the docs,
or at least the intros. I find a lot of new things that
I hadn’t thought of before.>>Well, that’s another good
point about the marketplace, and we’ll see that in a second when we, where we actually get to the application, is that the landing page of
the service or application that you’re getting
through the marketplace is mandated that you have some, like, links to documentation, to like README. That kind of forces
you to read the README. Who ever reads the README or the EULA?>>I am increasingly reading READMEs more–>>So am I.
>>To solve the not-reading-the-manual problem.>>Yes, I actually used to
have a sign on my door, when I ran a support organization,
the pre-Microsoft days, that just said, “Read the manual.”>>Well, the other thing
about READMEs, too, though, for SolarWinds customers, our customers do look at READMEs a lot. And one of the things that we do in, I get a chance to tell all
of you on a regular basis, you know, make sure that you’re looking at What Are We Working On now in THWACK, that’s a section about what
the upcoming features will be. So a lot of times they will
go straight to the README in the Customer Success Center, which is support.solarwinds.com, they’ll drill into the product, and that README is essentially
the list of new features that have been added in that release, because there’s a lot of new features that are added even in smaller–>>Release notes will tell you tons about, do I really need
to update, or upgrade from version 3.19 to 3.20? Or 20 to 20.1? Like, sometimes, the ROI just isn’t there, because it’s gonna introduce a new feature that you’re not using
or you have no need for. So, it’s really informative,
and really useful, especially if you’re in operations
where every cycle counts.>>Right, well, even when
it’s not a small update, I mean, many of you out there have to go through a change process whenever you’re doing an update, or if you need to test something out. That’s another great
thing about public cloud and, you know, something like Azure, is that you can actually instantiate the newest version of the product
to do your testing against in order to be successful.>>It solves that lab problem, right? Like, larger customers, many of you that are regular viewers
of the show, you have labs, or even maybe licenses
specific for your labs. There’s a discounted license for that. But being able to say, “Do I
want to? Let’s do a quick eval. “I’ve used that a million times”– or especially for like batch updates. Like, maybe you have several
different integrated products. Is there a single feature that’s
good enough in one of these that I want to go ahead
and do the upgrade? Or do I want to just
keep track and batch ’em? It’s really handy for that. But getting back to this, I love that our page
for SolarWinds products that are available in the
marketplace is so long that you have to actually scroll. And many of these are products that our customers have
relied on for years, and three of these even, have
been in here for some time.>>Right. But yeah, tell
you a bit more information about, obviously, what’s going on. But the key thing that
I’m gonna want to do because I know I want to install it, I’m gonna click create. And immediately, it’s going to instantiate the configuration, or the
baseline configuration. The key things that the
script needs to know in order to go and deploy its
Server & Application Monitor. In fact, that’s my first screen. So, first of all, it’s given
me a suggested name, samserver, I’m gonna create a little password here.>>Password123?>>Don’t tell everybody. I’m gonna choose this subscription into which I wish to install
this particular application. I’m gonna use my MSDN account. Resource group. Now this is a great thing, because obviously with a
resource group on Azure, you can put in all your components, so that if you are doing DevTest, it makes it just that much
easier for management control and at the end of the day, if you need to do some cleanup as well.>>As a best practice, and I know it’s not in this
particular screen right now, but in my resource groups,
especially if I’m doing testing, or if I’m doing solution development, I’ll go and tag, using Azure tags, my deployment with the
user who deployed it. So I will force the tag for
the user that deployed it, the date today it was deployed, and maybe a tag as to whether or not it’s a dev, test, prod. And that way, when I,
at the end of the month, when I export all of my
resources to a CSV file, I can parse it and say, “Well, this test was six months
ago. Is it still valid?” That way we don’t end
up using Azure resources or paying for Azure resources that you don’t really need anymore.>>I love tagging, it’s
something that took, I was late to use tagging for cloud and it was funny thinking
about, there’s a Log Manager Lab episode a while back where tagging is a part
of that product now. And I wanna do a whole episode on tagging because if you like custom properties, tagging lets you take that
to a whole new dynamic place. But anyway, so that’s an aside about that.>>But it ties in really
nicely with your product in terms of, it ingests it and actually reports it
back in a meaningful way.>>Right.
>>Right. And you can also see that the, just in terms of where do I
want to deploy this, I mean, Azure has locations across the globe. In fact, you know, why is this also important for SolarWinds? Well, in fact, we surveyed our customers. 55% of our customers across the world are using Azure as their public cloud. And so, yep.>>Well I mean it’s, but
that’s always been the case. I mean, you look at
SolarWinds customer base, the two vendors that you
see over and over again with the widest support for,
are Cisco and Microsoft, and the reason is that that
is what many of you are using. So for the system side
it’s with Microsoft, and obviously it would be Azure.>>Right, anyway, you saw all
the places you can deploy it. So, you know, if you
already have something set up in your home base, and you want to expand
out into other countries where you may have offices,
and so on and so forth, it makes it a lot easier
just through this console. So I’ve entered my baseline information, and, of course, I just click OK and it’s gonna take me to the next pane. So it’s gonna, in this case look at infrastructure information. So we are deploying it
in an infrastructure as a service model, so
we’re actually installing it on top of Windows Server. So once I’m in here again
I can select username, give myself another password, if I can remember how to type.>>Password345?>>Shush, you’re telling all my secrets. Anyway, Azure actually comes back and makes sure that I
have a strong password. That’s one of the nice things. Some of us don’t like strong passwords but obviously that’s a key
thing to be thinking about.>>We should all like strong passwords.>>We should all like strong passwords.>>Or at least long passwords.>>Yes, or actually
passphrases backed with MFA.>>There we go. One of the things, we do recommend or provide recommendations
on what virtual machine size you want to run this on, but you can see from here
and you have a huge selection and choice in exactly what
you want to deploy it on. And of course, all these
have been tested out with, working with Microsoft. So all these applications, once they do appear in the marketplace, are actually Azure certified. It’s been tested, it’s been validated, and nothing gets up in there without that certification
process taking place.>>And for people that are deploying this in their subscriptions, take
note of the cost per month. ‘Cause really sometimes,
especially if you’re in a dev or in test or in eval mode, you really don’t want to deploy
to a G2 family of machines.>>The thing that’s really
nice about that too, and that sort of curation
of instance size, and to your point about cost per month, is that part of understanding cloud is learning how to understand that. And it should be really obvious, but we have decades of experience with CapEx, on-prem, rack server. We can say, this application with this expected level of performance, based on these speeds and speed data for all the dependent infrastructure that’s gonna operate that application. You can make that call
between performance and cost. We know how to do that
almost in our sleep, on-prem. But when you go to cloud,
especially because the performance of these underlying instances
is increasing over time, it’s really handy to just
see that number upfront and say, OK, I’m now gonna
balance expected performance against that number, and it
takes care of that problem of not understanding, or in
fact not wanting to understand what the actual infrastructure
is that’s operating it.>>And in case of doubt, go low ’cause you can always up it later if the performance is not
where you’re expecting it.>>Yeah, and if it’s a lab, if
you’re just playing with it and you want to do an
eval, set it real small. Only make sure you put
it in a resource group because then it’s easy to delete that by just eliminating that resource group.>>Yeah, I was gonna say, cost
is a very important thing. We do have a free tool,
Azure Cost Monitor. We’ll cover that in a separate session, but definitely something to check out if you are concerned about cost. And with public cloud, frankly, you do need to be be concerned about cost. So I’m gonna click OK. So we’re in our Settings pane. So from here I can select
which operating system. Windows Server 2016 or
Windows Server 2019, I want to put it on. I can select whether I want a standard or in fact, a standard hard
drive or a standard SSD drive. It’s gonna give me a bit more performance. And then if I have a Windows license, otherwise that’s gonna
get consumed through the pricing on the back end. Network settings, we’re not going, we’ll just choose the defaults but obviously you have
some choices there as well. The last thing it’s gonna come up with is just to, do you want to
support scalability engines, and so that’s just a way
to be able to extend out the monitoring breadth and
scale of the Orion Platform, which is the baseline for SAM.>>And I love the way these
tiles that are coming up now are Orion-specific, right. So this us as a part of
putting it in the marketplace. That preconfiguration and this flow, to make sure that you’re getting
all of your config settings they way they need to be for the install, is built into this. So that’s another advantage here is it’s gonna walk you through it.>>And that’s part of the validation of putting an app in the marketplace is that those panes are actually there and working and testing.>>One of the things we just announced earlier this year was our
support of Azure SQL Database and so that’s obviously one of Microsoft’s PaaS services for SQL. You can instantiate your own Microsoft SQL as an IaaS instance as well but for speed and performance,
we’re gonna go with the Azure SQL Database.>>Speed, performance, and actually cost.>>There you go.>>Typically, typically
for equal performance the Azure SQL is a little cheaper than the the SQL running on a VM. Mostly ’cause you’re
forgoing the licensing cost and some of the compute
cost on those instances.>>Yep, so definitely a great choice. If you’re interested in
looking at the ARM template then you can certainly
open it up as I have here. You can download it. You can change it for your
own particular environment if you wish to use
automation on the back end. Obviously I’ll leave you
to play around with that.>>Or, I don’t know, save that somewhere so that you can go back in time and say how is this originally configured.>>Actually, you can add
that to your library so that you can deploy it again
in the exact same fashion.>>Unfortunately passwords are not in there but that’s a separate issue. So I’m gonna put my phone number. I’m not really gonna
put my phone number in. Patrick, I’ll put yours. So anyway, there’s my contact information, terms of use, and literally
talking about instantiating. Create, off we go, and it’s
off to the races immediately. Azure is leveraging that ARM template, is out taking the software image and putting it into the subscription and the resource group
that I’ve just specified and then just in a few more minutes it will be complete, and off we can go and start using our new SAM deployment.>>What kind of typical
spin-up times do you see?>>It very much varies by regions, but it can be as little
as five to 10 minutes. A lot of it comes down to the speed of the underlying platform. I mean, something like
SAM, the Orion Platform, it can be a relatively
complex installation.>>But it’s generally pretty predictable and however you figure it, based on the configuration you use you’re gonna usually see the same configuration time every time.>>You’ve got it, yep. Yeah, again, regardless of
region, it’s pretty consistent.>>And then the nice thing
with also this being based on an ARM template is if when you’re looking at
the status of your deployment you can actually drill
into it and see which parts are actually being deployed
if you’ve got Azure SQL, your VM, and the information about it, and see where you stand so
you know if you have time to go get yourself a cup of coffee.>>Yes, and so yeah, in fact
here’s that exact screen here, so you can see what components
have actually been created, what their status is, and just drill in. But obviously when it is finally complete you’re gonna get a notification. You can see it just right
there it started to add in a few additional components, but that’s busy operating away and we can go get that cup of coffee.>>That is an alert that you definitely do not want to filter out. So notification for complete installation for cloud resources is really nice because then you just wait,
it pops up in your mailbox or in Slack or wherever,
and you can see it. OK Sacha and Pierre,
here’s the question then. I mean this looks super
easy and I probably stand up 60, 70 instances of these products a year for demos and working with
customers and everything else. It’s just really convenient. I spin ’em up in the cloud. Half the time they fall under free tier, it’s budget-friendly good stuff. So this looks like the
only way to do this. Why wouldn’t you do this, and the answer is there’s
a lot of good reasons why. So let’s talk about that for a second. When is this not the right approach, or maybe a modified version
of this is the right approach?>>Well I think a lot of it, I mean, like you just said, technically there’s no
reason why you can’t do it. Really I think it comes more
to your corporate policies or your own preference.>>Compliance.>>Compliance, that’s a–>>Depending on which vertical you’re in you may have some restriction as to where you store your data.>>Right, well I mean, and if
you look across everywhere that is definitely softening in terms of where you save your data. But a lot do have security
and/or compliance concerns that say, “No, I want
to keep it on-premises.” Especially governmental institutions, but then there’s other
opportunities for that in the cloud. Other things could be that, I mean, maybe you’ve already got
your main environment set up on-premises and you’re just
not at that point ready to make that transition into public cloud. But the great thing is, once
you deploy in public cloud you can still point it back to monitor whether it be your Azure resources, resources in other public
clouds, in other hosted clouds, or back on-premises. It’s really, it’s a central
point of command and control that can reach out like
a hub-and-spoke model.>>So it’s a truly hybrid
type of deployment. So you can deploy it in the cloud but still monitor, review, scan all of your on-prem resources.>>And that in fact is the way
that most of our customers who reach that point, we’ve talked about it in another episode, sort of that tipping point that you get to where you’re, “I’m on-prem,
I’m never going to the cloud. “OK, well now I’ve
got some hybrid stuff.” And then sooner or later you
kind of enter that data gravity where most of it, or
most of your workloads are actually in the cloud. Is that most of our customers are also using our network
management products and a number of other modules
that are about making sure that the service delivery all
the way down to the desktop on campus, WAN, troubleshooting,
BGP, and that kind of thing, that absolutely is the reason
why they will almost always, typically they’ll put
a remote polar on-prem or they’ll use an agent on-prem, but they will run it
from a cloud instance, but they will absolutely connect back and monitor lots of
resources on-prem that way.>>And if you happen to
be on the golf course when something goes wrong
and you get the phone call and you need to log on to the console to see what actually is going on, well, being in the cloud means you can access it from anywhere without having to deal with
VPN clients or certificates.>>Yes, and talking of accessing anywhere, I mean, again, you may have
a multi-regional organization and you may want to stand
up different instantiations of the Orion Platform and connect them using our Enterprise Operations Console for that single view,
single point of management. So a lot of different options
that you can leverage, whether you’re deploying on-
premises and/or in the cloud. But I think you hit the key
thing is that it’s designed as a hybrid IT environment
monitoring solution, looking at it across
from the infrastructure all the way up into the
application, into SaaS services. We have some new templates for Office 365, for some of the PaaS services as well as other commercial
off-the-shelf applications.>>So the net net here is that
the reason these applications are being offered inside
of the marketplace is for the same reason that
customers are monitoring increasingly cloud resources, which is that’s just what hybrid does. You start on-prem, you start
consuming cloud resources, and sooner or later, you
start to see the tools that you’ve relied on forever just start to show up in the marketplace. So is that almost like an
indicator of where IT is in that progression? Like if you see a vendor
that’s offered an app forever that you install yourself, suddenly shows up in the marketplace, is it a little reassuring
that you’re not the only one that now needs to be able to
kind of be thinking about that?>>There’s different ways
of thinking about that, but that is definitely one of them. The other way I look at it too is because I talk to a number of companies and clients worldwide. There’s a lot that are still, well no, my workloads are not, they’re not needed in the cloud, they’re inward-facing, but I need stuff, tools
to monitor and back it up and update, and all of
the operational activities that we need to do. But I don’t feel like I need to deploy A complete infrastructure
inside my own infrastructure just to do that. So now I’m starting to use cloud services, which is basically the low-hanging fruit. So you don’t have to
move your workloads over but you can still pull
in those cloud services to make your life so much easier. So monitoring is one big one. Backup, business continuity planning.>>SCM is one of the ones that’s in there that’s our change monitor for servers. And that was one where customers said, look, we have best practices on-prem for the way that we’re monitoring the configuration of our servers. We would expect that would extend into a hybrid environment.>>And it should.>>And it should, right.>>And it should.>>So a lot of times, do
you feel like there’s, you can almost see when you
look at the list of applications that vendors include together, is it they’re almost providing,
it’s not best practice, but sort of these things
work well together in cloud. Like it’s almost a recommendation. These are things that you’re
gonna need to think about in the way that cloud’s different?>>Well cloud is different, but you really have to think about it as just as extension of
your own data center. So it’s your own stuff. It’s your own services. It’s just not running on-premises.>>It’s okay to say, “I’m tired
of managing infrastructure, “I just want to run applications
and deliver services,” is that kind of?>>Well racking servers
sometimes can be fun.>>I still have some
scars from speed rails.>>Yeah, those are fun.>>I like the lights. [laughs]>>Blinky lights, I’m a server hugger.>>All right, so any,
Sacha, any gotchas here, specific to SolarWinds that you
kind of want to be aware of? I know we’ve done episodes before on migrating your, I think
at THWACKcamp last year we did a whole session on migrating your Orion Platform instance to the cloud. There’s documentation out there, there’s articles inside of THWACK. I think there’s even a how-to guide inside of the Customer Success Center that kind of walks people through. So we won’t go over all of those details, there’s a ton of resources out there and we’ll throw ’em into the show notes. But anything in particular that we should let ’em know about?>>Well I think, you know, there’s gonna be multiple
different situations that you can run into. You mentioned some of the
migration opportunities. So effectively what you can
do with a platform on-premises you can do up in the cloud as well. You know, ultimately we do
provide all that information on our Customer Portal as well to people trialing the product. And we also have a very
rich Customer Support team as well as our huge THWACK community, in order to be able to help get answers as quickly as possible. So it’s very much a self-serve
or you can reach out to us and we’ll kind of help guide you through to address some of those challenges when and if they come up.>>And then Pierre on the Microsoft side, I mean, our customers
have a broad spectrum of different licensing,
where maybe it’s enterprise or it’s bring your own
license or whatever else and so you saw as we walked
through the configuration steps there’s some options there. Like is it Azure SQL
or is it your instance. So you’d recommend really
learning a little bit more about licensing options there?>>Well yeah, especially
when you’re looking at licenses in the cloud. When we picked the server option there was a radio button for,
do I have my own licenses. So there’s been some changes
lately into the licensing. I am not a licensing expert, by any stretch of the imagination.>>Is anyone on this
planet a licensing expert?>>We actually have licensing experts that every time I talk to
them, they blow my mind.>>Former attorneys or, you get it.>>And really I am not authorized to interpret your licensing agreement. This is my go-to line.>>Oh yeah, yeah. No I mean, but in terms
of just in general, when you’re looking at Microsoft licenses there’s a lot of different options. So a recommendation might also
be, just take a little time and you know, look at the licenses, the licensing that your company uses because that’ll help inform your decision about how to fill out those
forms when you deploy.>>Absolutely, and whether or
not you have software assurance with license mobility. Do you have a DevTest subscription where the cost of licensing
is already reduced because you’re not allowed to actually run production
workloads in there, it’s just literally for
development and tests.>>But hey, can you take advantage of that and set up an amazing lab–>>Absolutely.
>>To really learn about features and products that you have.>>And absolutely, and
there are some ways where using ARM templates and
deployment methodologies, where you could actually
simulate your on-prem or your real production environment in a way where every time you basically blow away that environment you need to test something else, you hit the deploy button,
it deploys it every time exactly the same. ‘Cause I remember when back in the days where we had our production
environment on-prem and then we had the dev
environment on-prem, DevTest.>>It was usually–
>>The idea was to have it–>>That wasn’t under–
>>Exactly, but the idea was to have it exactly the same but the versions of AD weren’t the same, the services that were
turned on weren’t the same. Nothing was exactly the same. By doing it in the cloud
and having it in an ARM imperative scripting mode,
then you don’t have to worry it’s always going to be exactly the same. So you’re deploying something on there, makes your testing and your evaluation of any product more consistent.>>Awesome. Well gentlemen, thank you so much for being a part of SolarWinds Lab. This has been really great. I hope this has been
helpful for all of you. This is a really great development, many of you have actually been, as I mentioned before, using DPA out of the
marketplace for a while. We would love to get your feedback. Hopefully you’re with us live. You can provide live feedback there, but if you’re not, make sure
you swing by our homepage which is lab.solarwinds.com, look at the schedule for upcoming events and make sure you’re with us live so that we can get a little bit of feedback from you directly. Anything else?>>Well actually I did want
to show the final deployment. Well actually it’s not
the final deployment. Here’s one I created earlier. It’s actually, if you deploy the product it’s not gonna have all the data in it. But this is actually our online demo which is running in the public cloud. And so you can actually
access that yourself and play around with it. Or of course go to the Azure Marketplace and actually trial it yourself.>>You just couldn’t let us get out clean without coming to the demo.>>I just had to get back in. I mean, it speaks for itself.>>It really does.>>And really, showing
a brand new deployment with no data in it doesn’t
have the same hmph.>>Yeah.
>>Well I mean you’re gonna get sample maps. You’re gonna get all the admin access that is maybe not a part of this demo. I mean that’s the main
reason for setting up an eval is that you’re an administrator and then you can start running discovery and pulling in your resources. And then it’s you. That first view, it’s the
things that you you need to see.>>It’s you.>>And you can start working with them.>>And more importantly,
I forgot my password so I’m gonna go and just
reinstantiate it again. But of course it’s only
gonna take me, you know–>>No in the inside of the console you’re just gonna do admin, reset.>>I can do that as well. Multiple ways to get back in to what I need to, again using the–>>The point is you don’t have to redeploy.>>Exactly.>>Awesome. Well Pierre thank
you so much for being on Lab and just everything that
you do for SolarWinds.>>Well thank you very much for having me.>>You bet. I’m Patrick Hubbard.>>I’m Sacha Dawes.>>And I’m Pierre Roman. Thank you for watching. [upbeat electronic music]

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