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Air Miles Update: Using Air Miles to rent a car (CBC Marketplace)

Air Miles Update: Using Air Miles to rent a car (CBC Marketplace)


♪ [theme]>>Asha:The “People versusAirMiles” iscoming right at you.It’s been a wild rideforAir Milescollectors.We brought these five together a few months ago to try to use up thousands of their Dream Miles before they were set to expire. ♪ ♪ Mike, James, Ivan, Joanne, and Razvan, were loyal, long-time collectors. But when it came to redeeming their miles, like million of other Canadians, our five were hitting the wall.>>I was running into major roadblocks.>>Asha: So we created a test centre.>>Has anybody gotten in yet? I just keep getting the circle going around and around.>>Asha:From slow searches.>>They have the slowest web site that I have ever experienced.>>Asha:To high prices,to no choices.Our testers couldn’t scoreanything they wanted for theirdream miles.Joanne Moscone really wantedtravel certificates but theytook those rewards away fromcollectors like her.>>I went to order my certificates, they’re not there. Can’t find them anywhere.>>Asha:And no luck for peoplelooking to take off.Michael Judd had already spentsix months looking for a flightto New Zealand to visit family.>>It’ll crash. It’ll time out. Then other times you’ll get just a little bit further and a nice big window pop up saying, “Sorry, but we are experiencing technical difficulties.”>>Asha:James Fulcher wasturned off by extra fees.>>The taxes and fees through Air Miles was $618. This clearly is not working. [phone rings]>>Asha:They tried callingthe customer servicecentre for help.>>[from phone]:We are not ableto take anymore calls today as currentexpected wait time exceedsour operating hoursthis evening.>>Asha:But got nowhere.>>They just hung up me.>>They just hung up.>>Wow.>>I feel like I can’t do anything.>>Asha:They called backon a VIP line and got through.>>I ‘m getting really frustrated. I’m getting nowhere here.>>[from phone]:Remember,the program can make changes,right, with or without notice.>>That’s really disappointing. ♪ ♪>>Asha:Turns out Air Milesmay not want usto redeem all our miles.We dug up a document that saystheir goal is for us to redeemabout 72 per cent of our miles.Execs say, “We actively controlthe program viathe options thatyou can redeem for.”>>I ‘m done. I’ve been loyal since 1993, and this past year I have had nothing but frustration.>>You’re cutting up your card?>>Done. Moving on. Different reward program.>>What are you gonna do?>>I ‘m going to fight it as as long as I can. And not just for myself, for others. ♪ ♪>>Asha:True to his word,Michael took his fight toOntario politicians who werelooking at outlawing the expiryof loyalty points.>>Today we are dealing with Bill 47 with respect to reward points.>>Air Miles execs showed up at the legislature.>>And as I understand it there are several people who wish to speak.>>Asha: It was Michael’s moment.>>Really and honestly feels like I’m being blocked, with purpose and intent. The level of service I would say is less than 1 per cent of what it was in the ’90s. It is right now, from my perspective, appalling.>>Mr. Judd, we are working to resolve your issue. However, let me please say this to the committee. Mr. Judd’s experience is not the norm. ♪ ♪>>Asha:We tried to getanswers for Canadians.You don’t want all your collectors to redeem their miles. We found it in transcribed notes.>>What we want is our collectors to stay actively engaged in our program to both earn and redeem.>>Asha:Two days later,Air Miles cavedto public pressure.They cancelled the expirypolicy and told theirshareholders that going forwardLoyaltyOnewill adjustthe value proposition to collectors.Translation, they could devalueyour miles to avoid their lostprofits in the future.[multiple text notifications]Canadians were not happy.This monthAir Milesapologizedto collectors, promising toimprove their programs but theyadmit they have already hikedthe miles requiredfor vacation packages.And our viewers saythose aren’t the onlyrewards costing more.>>Okay, so we are in our rental car, that we had to pay for, becauseAir Mileskept changing the amount of points we needed to the point where we couldn’t get it onAir Milesanymore so we’ve had to pay for this out of our own pockets.>>Asha:Edmonton’s Kelly Keanewanted to redeem dream milesfor a car rentalin Palm Springsin late January.>>This is why we went to California, is to get away from the snow. [shovel grinds against pavement]>>Asha:But the price jumpedfrom 1360 Dream Milesin the fall,to 1740 miles.That’s a 28 per cent hike.>>It’s just like they were devaluing the points that we still had left.>>Asha:We checked.Couldn’t find a reasonfor the big increase,especially because he wanteda car during the low season.>>I’m sure I’m not the only person that’s experienced these things.>>Asha:No, he’s not.Another collector wrote abouta doubling of miles for a carin Las Vegas.And a Montréaler documented askyrocketing of miles over thelast two yearsfor the same car,in the same city, in Florida.So we askedAir Milesfor an explanation. And they say they haven’t made price changes to hotels, flights or car rentals and blame any increase on foreign exchange. Market rates in general and availability at time of booking Which they say are beyond the control of Air Miles.>>I really don’t buy their argument. The changes that they’ve outlined, I don’t believe have happened. The circumstances that they’ve outlined I don’t think are realistic.>>Asha:As for our testifyingtester Michael, some good news.>>What I have here is my itinerary, finally after ten months for my flights to New Zealand.>>Asha:But that ticket tooka whole lot out of him.>>Probably in excess of 300 hours, a lot of grief.>>Asha:And guess what,it’s double the Dream Milesfrom the advertised,“Starting from 14,000,”to more than 30,000.>>It’s impossible to work out because none of it makes sense.>>Asha:Michael fought tohave the difference creditedback to him.And won.But he is pretty much done withthe program.>>I don’t understand what they are thinking. Senior management atAir Milesand LoyaltyOne really has to have a good hard think on what they’re doing.

Comments (36)

  1. Air miles is trash I dont think I ever redeemed anything

  2. Just like any Government web site.

  3. I gave up on air miles. Its a scam.

  4. Well. I'm helping my mom get her air miles spent then never touching this crap again. Hope they get legislated into oblivion for being a scam.

  5. we need a CBC news in the US

  6. cbc been doing better lately.

    less opinions, many marketplace, many stories about winter storms.

    there is hope in media aparently

  7. If this happened here in america that company would be sued in a heartbeat but at least in canada the goverment actually cared

  8. Seems like air miles is dying, don't hear of hardcore air miles collectors or users nowadays

  9. If you do not like what they are doing redeem your points and never use it again. I did just that 2 years ago. If there are no customers, there would be no Air miles program…

  10. Btw it seems it was shoot when air miles decided that miles older than five years would expire in december 31 2016. So everyone was calling and using the websites in panic mode. Normal that it was crashing XD.

  11. that damn airline rewards company is a flatout damn scam purposely manipulating people out of their money and miles bcse they don't really want to loose out on anymore future profits

  12. I used to work there. It was the worst job I ever had. It's an awful feeling knowing you are ripping people off. I left and never regretted it.

  13. Consumers have power. If you're unhappy with Air Miles, don't bother going to them with your complaints. A consumer boycott of companies offering Air Miles points is much more effective. There are other supermarkets besides, Metro, and other gas stations besides Shell. Stop using companies that offer Air Miles and make sure the heads of those companies know why. They have the power to change things at AM.

  14. Good on you Marketplace. I was burnt by Aeroplan and lost 40,000 miles I had earned and then they changed the rules and took them away. I wish someone had been there for me.

  15. These people never heard of a class action lawsuit huh?

  16. for Western Canadians, Air Miles program is only for groceries @ Safeway loll. Everyone knows this "crab" not worth it.

  17. This is it? The update to the airmiles fight? Wow so disappointing! I will not go out of my way to collect anymore Air Miles. It's just a gimmick. I will not make air miles rich. I am surprised more can not be done.

  18. The first time I was ripped off by airmiles was in Sobeys Safeway it was an overpriced jar of Smuckers jam it was twenty airmiles I swallowed the hook bought the Jam never got the twenty airmiles I complained to everyone Smuckers,Sobeys Airmiles. Finally I cut up my card recently I was talked into signing up again by a young Safeway employee. Then I saw it Safeway Weekly Flyer – Nov 03 to Nov 09 – Grid View – All Categories
    specials.safeway.ca/flyers/safewaycanada-flyer/grid_view/232111?hide…type...
    Find sales, special offers, coupons and more. Valid from Nov 03 to Nov 09. … Melitta Whole Coffee- 100 Air Miles® Bonus Miles. $12.99¢ ea. View details
    I bought two bags in order to get the airmiles never recieved them ripped off again this is false advertizing!

  19. Bottom line…….The program was designed to make money…..things like this are not designed to help the consumer or to get them farther ahead.

  20. I only use airmiles' "cash miles" at the gas station for $10 off. $10 is $10….

  21. Look at that CEOs face. Just look at it. Typical swarthy sociopath.

  22. I would like to thank CBC News for active and truthful investigative information about Air Mile. I am done no more collecting the air miles. AIR MILES Screw YOU……… Big Cheers to CBC

  23. Look businesses are not going to do anything that cost them any money, not one penny! When are your consumers going to get this through you'll stubborn heads? It is a shame to get anything you want these days you have to argue& fight with everybody‼

  24. Goto Airmiles.ca and switch to Cash Miles. Every 95 miles is $10 cash off your purchase. Save those miles up and use them once a year for Xmas Grocerys or your annual road trip fuel. That's how you get ahead with airmiles. Also if you don't get your points on an advertised special ask for them. If you don't get anywhere ask to speak to an Manager. It is fraud to advertise and refuse to deliver.

  25. STOP COLLECTING AIR MILES! CUT UP YOUR CARDS!

  26. most of this is a recap. thumbs down….

  27. a long hard think? no dude, they know what they are doing, and its the bottom line put above the customer no matter what

  28. After they split up the points to discourage you from redeeming, I was so frustrated. I cut up my Air Miles card over a year ago. They intentionally mislead, lie, and waste people's time and money. This should be criminal. Lock them up.

  29. History repeats itself, once a scammer, still a scammer, at least for those organized crooks, please everyone dump the prog, we don't need them just cause THEY NEED U$$$$$….!!!!

  30. Its nice to see News organisations getting in the face of the unworthy – in Canada, i wish CBC News was in the UK, none do it here.

  31. I hate, loathe and detest Airmiles. Get a credit card with 1 – 4 % cash back instead. 8,700 points will currently get you a return ticket to the UK but the fees/taxes are over $700! I have saved up 22,000 points over 20 years but this number of points won't even get me 2 return flights at peak season to the UK and fees/taxes are over $1,4000 for two UK tickets at any time of the year. What kind of a travel pints programme is this?

  32. Just started air miles both the card and the bmo card…after watching this I'm going to cancel both…I ll do the bmo rewards instead.

  33. how apply to get shell Canada air mils card

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